For kicks and giggles, here's a link to the original version of the Oerth Journal #9, which was released for approximately a day before the Council of Greyhawk made me take out the Dorgha Torgu bit.
This also has the map that was left out when the OJ was "re-pdfed" with a new cover a few years later.
Why was the Dorgha Torgu bit taken out? If it can be put back in in the new format that would be great. It would be a nice little bit to have archived for reference.
Besides, the Baklunish pretty much got the shaft on deities.
Why was the Dorgha Torgu bit taken out? If it can be put back in in the new format that would be great. It would be a nice little bit to have archived for reference.
Besides, the Baklunish pretty much got the shaft on deities.
The Council of Greyhawk (which was a real group of people) decided that since Gary hadn't given explicit permission to use it in the Oerth Journal (he had given permission for it to be posted to Greytalk), it shouldn't be included. I felt that it wasn't much of a jump from a message board to the OJ, and it wasn't like I was rewriting it or anything. But I was overruled.
The Council of Greyhawk (which was a real group of people) decided that since Gary hadn't given explicit permission to use it in the Oerth Journal (he had given permission for it to be posted to Greytalk), it shouldn't be included. I felt that it wasn't much of a jump from a message board to the OJ, and it wasn't like I was rewriting it or anything. But I was overruled.
I'd be interested in this article and perhaps to get it up to date and into an upcoming OJ if you could get that to me. _________________ Cheerz,
-Rick "Duicarthan" Miller
Editor-in-Chief, Oerth Journal
http://www.oerthjournal.comhttp://www.greyhawkonline.com/duicarthan
The Council of Greyhawk (which was a real group of people) decided that since Gary hadn't given explicit permission to use it in the Oerth Journal (he had given permission for it to be posted to Greytalk), it shouldn't be included. I felt that it wasn't much of a jump from a message board to the OJ, and it wasn't like I was rewriting it or anything. But I was overruled.
I'd be interested in this article and perhaps to get it up to date and into an upcoming OJ if you could get that to me.
Dorgha Torgu
By Gary Gygax (ggygax@genevaonline.com)
This is material I recently found in my old
Greyhawk files. I was preparing for play in the west,
and was working on this deity for the obvious reasons
you will note as you read the descriptive material. This
material is in draft form, and was never tested in play—
an obvious need, for interaction with a party of adventures
while Drought Torii was in mortal guise was intended,
of course.
As an aside, if through the interaction the party
managed to assist him in regaining his place, they would
be much favored by him if of any but Evil alignment.
Bad guys helping would be in trouble with not with him,
for Drought Torii [sic] would simply ignore them, but
with the other deities (and devils, demons, et.al.) for placing
an opponent on high again.
Greater (fallen) God, now a Quasi-Deity
Dorgha Torgu B Material Dimensions, Material
Elements N (G) m
It is said that Dorgha Torgu is the outcast of the
deities of Oerth. This is because he is the one from whom
came the Rain of Colorless Fire upon the Suloise Empire,
thus violating both his Neutrality and his charge.
While the Invoked Devastation of the Suel was wrought
through the vilest of the Evil powers, the counter response
was unjust despite provocation. Swayed by the
evil counsel of Vilp-akf’cho Rentaq, that alien thing
which is called the Elder Elemental God, Dorgha Torgu
bent dimensions and loosed unnatural elements in his
charge so as to precipitate upon the Suel realm the nearinvisible
and unquenchable flames that consumed the
land, burning even rock to powdery ash.
Shunned now by all deities not of malign bent,
Dorgha Torgu, the Outcast of the Gods, wanders his
domain in remorse. Torn between anger at his treatment,
which he feels is unjust, and remorse, this deity
seeks some means of rebuking his peers even while proving
himself as worthy in their eyes. Despite the blandishments
of those of Evil nature, Dorgha Torgu has not
turned to them. Clearly he regrets listening to the Elder
Elemental long ago, and is wise enough to understand
that to follow Evil now would simply confirm the judgement
of those who have made him a pariah. Thus,
Dorgha Torgu is also rejected by those gods and goddesses
of malign sort. He is indeed a true outcast.
Acknowledged and venerated by Baklunish
“purists” (for reasons now distasteful in the extreme to
him) and a handful of other savants who are aware of
the circumstances, Dorgha Torgu is no longer able to
wield vast powers. He is now a mere quasi-god with
powers akin to those of a Cleric/Magic-User/Paladin of
18th level each (with the ability to move into the material
dimensions and the surrounding plane, compound
elements to form things thus, and, of course to assume
mortal form at will). Brought low thus through his own
error and the judgement of his peers, Dorgha Torgu roams
about, often in material form, vainly looking for that
which will redeem him in the eyes of the Greater Gods.
As with all things, there is a means by which the outcast
can restore his lost repute, but he must manage the matter
without assistance from any of deital sort.
In mortal guise, this deity can assume any
form—male of female, young or old, handsome or ugly,
and so forth. When in human guise, however, Dorgha
Torgu has abilities of diminished sort, even from his relatively
lowly quasi-deital status. (As an aside, it is thought
that this is because he has the secret backing Istus, who
would see her fellow restored to his place if Dorgha Torgu
can earn such. It is speculated that the opportunity to
make amends for his offense will come only when he in
such weakened state.) Thus, Dorgha Torgu has but mortal
powers, albeit considerable ones, and cannot, of
course, be truly slain but merely destroyed in material
form and sent to his own demi-plane for a time for recuperation.
Dorgha Torgu as a mortal has the combined
abilities of a Cleric and a Paladin. He may opt to have
the former at 12th level ability and the latter at 8th level,
or vice versa. In either case he can also use each of the
following spells twice per day: dimension door, passwall,
rock to mud, teleport, wall of stone.
In roaming through the world, Dorgha Torgu
helps those who seek to reverse evil things, to aid those
who have been wronged, and to otherwise help those
suffering unjustices. This he does from remorse, not
because he believes such a course will restore him to his
lost status. Of course, it is surely some such humble act
that will set him on the course of attaining that which he
seeks.
I just remembered that this Dorgha Torgu bit was featured in its entirety in OJ #12, pages 6-7. Hopefully others will see this little gem though and look up other things too.
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