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    Master Greytalker

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    Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:20 pm  
    Glossography of the Flanaess - Peoples and Cultures

    The New Canon begins!

    The first full section covers the Peoples and Cultures of the Flanaess. Not just Humans and Demihumans. Not just Humanoids and Giants (reprinted from VOG). But everyone I could find on the encounter tables and more from 3.5 sources. The only thing missing is the kitchen sink, mostly because Rogue Modrons prefer to live in Sigil.

    Of course, covering all of that takes 97 pages, so be prepared for some intensive reading.

    Maybe, hopefully, someday it will get enhanced with art and cool layout and top 100 pages, but for now it is just a raw pdf netbook.

    Pick up your copy today for the low, low price of clicking the link then clicking download and open file.

    And yes, I am writing more!

    https://thegreygrimoire1.wordpress.com/2024/02/03/no-frills-netbook/
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    Tue Feb 20, 2024 10:19 am  

    Am I correct that this work doesn't treat the standard demi-human pantheons as canonical?

    I'm quite intrigued by the olven history, in particular.

    Have you considered making silver-haired grey elves & blonde faeries geographically distinct, with faeries originating in Celene and (historically) Vale of Luna, while the grey elves hail from Sun(ndi) and (Summer) Stars?
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    Wed Feb 21, 2024 5:37 am  

    edmundscott wrote:
    Have you considered making silver-haired grey elves & blonde faeries geographically distinct, with faeries originating in Celene and (historically) Vale of Luna, while the grey elves hail from Sun(ndi) and (Summer) Stars?
    This has been my approach, FWIW.
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    Fri Feb 23, 2024 11:52 am  

    edmundscott wrote:
    Am I correct that this work doesn't treat the standard demi-human pantheons as canonical?


    It treats them as what they are - standard, and thus not applicable to Oerth.
    Oerth has its own powers with overt demi-human aspects, and others easily applicable to them.

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    I'm quite intrigued by the olven history, in particular.


    Thanks. It is definitely divergent, but I wanted to highlight that the Flan were there first and make the Olve distinctly not human.

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    Have you considered making silver-haired grey elves & blonde faeries geographically distinct, with faeries originating in Celene and (historically) Vale of Luna, while the grey elves hail from Sun(ndi) and (Summer) Stars?


    No. Not rejected it, just never even thought of it. It is certainly a viable alternative. It just wound up for me as a way to connect to and highlight a fae origin for the Olve.

    As an aside, 15 years ago, I wrote two pieces that appeared in the Oerth Journal on the Olve of Sunndi and the Summer Stars. They do not include as much development as in this, but the beginnings of my work on making the elves different is there.
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    Sun Jun 09, 2024 2:51 pm  

    I'm finally starting to read Samwise's Glossography of the Flanaess – Peoples and Cultures and am going to post comments and questions here rather than only in the Greytalk Discord channel.

    Page 5–7 present the ancient Flan (The First) and Bakluni (The Outsiders). Not until page 8, completing the overview of the Suloise (The First Empire) did I understand that Samwise had done something substantially different with the initial / original humans of Oerth, when he wrote, "Suloise Peoples had bright silver skin, silvery-blue eyes, and cotton-white kinky hair on their heads, which they would sculpt into elaborate forms. They had no body hair, eyebrows, or beards."

    Later on that page, regarding Oerids (The New Empire), he wrote, "Oeridians had electrum-toned skin, just short of a true green, with coppery hair and eyes, their eyes usually of a darker shade than the hair."

    Interesting! So each of the four human "races" of Oerik reflect particular metals. I plan to continue reading but for now think this might follow from how Samwise characterizes humans as the children of Beory, the Oerth Mother.
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    Sun Jun 09, 2024 3:00 pm  

    [quote="mtg"]I'm finally starting to read Samwise's Glossography of the Flanaess – Peoples and Cultures and am going to post comments and questions here rather than only in the Greytalk Discord channel.
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    Exxxcellent.

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    Interesting! So each of the four human "races" of Oerik reflect particular metals. I plan to continue reading but for now think this might follow from how Samwise characterizes humans as the children of Beory, the Oerth Mother.


    Yes they do - for several reasons.

    First, I wanted to stress these are Oerthmen not Earthmen. However much the current people of the Flanaess may appear like ordinary Europeans, they are fundamentally different.

    Second, I wanted to stress just how mixed the modern population of the Flanaess is, as originally noted. There was a hard shift to stressing the individual racial groups in the central parts of the Flanaess starting with FtA, and I wanted to step way back from that.

    As for humans as children of Beory, they are, but they also have connections to Istus, Lendor, and Procan as described in the Cosmogony. Each of the four put their mark on a particular human group.
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