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Sure thing! I've still got all of my notes, so anything new and/or expanded will be easy to add in.

Heck, with a little work I could give a paragraph or two each for the Gods not covered.

Just ...

AM,

Let me know if you need anything else from me. I mostly just lurk from time to time (DMing 2-a-week is tough!), but I'll get anything you need ASAP.

Firepower

Yep, I'm back. Smile

About now GVD should have what I've done on the Holidays. If you like, I can put it up in Religious Matters for public scrutiny.

Two of my players are young (hell, I've been playing longer than they've been alive), and they absolutely LOVE Greyhawk. One has even started his own Greyhawk Campaign.

Two other players are new t ...

Howdy,

First off, I use Psionics as a different sort of magic; there's arcane, divine, and psionic. I found this eliminates the problems of compatability and interacting with psionic powers.

Th ...

Holidays, eh?

Hmmm... perhaps a submission is in order... Cool

Heh, I'm already on duty, but here goes... Smile

FirePower is set to roll anytime after June 25th.

I want to write an introduction for the Religion section (right there with you, Wolfsire), b ...

One that I'm planning to drop on my players, since they're "in the neighborhood", is UK1.

The time-distortion effect of the garden will really mess their minds up. Plus the fact that my party isn' ...

I've thrown lizardmen, Sea Prince/Brotherhood pirates, and handfuls of smaller humanoids at the party if they're along the coast.

Inland a little, I turn to ogres, bugbears, and hobgoblins. IMC th ...

IF they survive the Hool Marshes, they could stick to the coast and leap-frog along various coastal towns up to Gradsul.

Saltmarsh, Seaton, Anglar, Sanduchar, then Gradsul.

Setting ashore at any ...

Hey all,

Just wanted to give you a heads-up. Military duty calls yet again, so response times will be exceptionally spotty for the next two-to-three weeks. Things should stabilize a little at the ...

No comments?

Nice job on the Religion section, Yabusama! I especially like the holy symbols! Cool

Hey all,

The Churches are done*

Yabs and Tedra should have the file in their collective hot little hands now.

Look it over and punch holes in it. Smile

But remember that the NPCs were w ...

Tedra,

I should have the NPCs done tonight, but they'll probably go on Yabasuma's new site.

But I was wondering if you'd like to collaborate on some NPC art? I've got 13 NPCs, and I think that ...

Just sent the PM, IvorMac. That site looks excellent!

NEWS ALERT! GREYHAWK REFERENCE!

Page 101, "Combat Medics in the World"

Lieutenant Wellast Huldane is from the Nyrondal Cavalry 1st Regiment.

Yippie, huh? Not that I would call that Greyhawk ...

Okay, let's try this again... Embarassed

The new, improved, economy-sized Churches of Gran March has been delivered (sorry Tedra). Now with more Fharlanghn! Made with the space-age ingredient Phyton ...

What the!?!?

(flip, flip, flip)

GAAAAHH!!!!

Okay, I can do this. I only missed Fharlanghn and Phyton.

Guess I should look at the book, rather than my notes, once in a while. Embarassed

Monday night, and Tedra has the updated file in her hot little hands. Smile

I hope to have the Church NPCs finished by tomorrow night.

And now it's back to work for me!

Your task, dear re ...

Okay, I'm back.

Military duty was a little more involved than I originally thought. Confused

I should have church stuff up by Monday night.

With Tedra's help, of course... Wink

Awww AM misses me. Laughing

I'm back, and should have the church stuff up by Monday night.

But yes, Nezbangi's game is a blast, and we could use a couple more Greyhawk-faithful in the group. Two ...

Hey all,

I hope to have something up next week. This week is out as I am still away from home (and my books, my notes, my PC, my...)

So look for more on the churches next week. Hopefully I can ...

A possible edit to the laws:

All males regardless of race, must serve in the Army of the March, begining at the age of 15 and until such time as the Commander determines such service complete.

...

Anced Math,

I'm putting together some NPCs for the heads of the churches I've detailed, as well as a few others within the churches.

~A sample priestess of Merikka and the Oeridian Church, "upda ...

Yabusama,

Awesome maps! Cool

Not sure if this is a typo, or if it's a change that I missed... brain's not at 100% of late. But I think "St. Inessa" should be just "Inessa".

Unless I m ...

A lot of good points are being made, and I can't say that I disagree with all (or even MOST) of them.

I guess I was looking at the Magic Shop with two things in mind. First was the lessening of wo ...

Oh crap! He's back from vacation! Quick! Everyone back to work!

Laughing

WB, recently-lounging-in-the-islands one. Smile

Basiliv,

Awesome link! Happy

Much food for thought there! The Shoppe is scary, but the House seems to be almost exactly the compromise me and my players need. Thanks.

If this topic keeps ge ...

So I guess that the consensus (so far) is that a little herb-and-bauble shop is fine. And that if the PCs want to sell, some one will want to buy. If the PCs want to buy, the DM will plan a roleplay ...

You certainly don't need a blindfold, Crag. No executions here. Sad

Wait.

Ugh... hold it. Smile

There we go.

I think that you and Wolfsire are basically saying the same thing: the Ph ...

Let me preface this by saying that I’m just starting my second group in my campaign (1st level, no magic yet), and I’m curious how other DMs handle this issue. My Saturday group has magic shops (for ...

This came up in the Hold of the Sea Princes thread, and since I haven't found anything addressing this, I thought I'd ask here:

DM's, do you allow your players to enter a particular storefront in y ...

I have no idea of the canon on this, but assuming it can be changed, I did not like in the Church of Pholtus: “The Cardinal of the Sheldomar Valley … answers directly to Wintershiven, … his superior.” ...

Hey Everybody!

PLEASE take a look at the file Tedra hosted for me.

I want to know everyone's thought's on what I've got up there. No, I don't want praise; I want criticisms. I want complaints. ...

Hijacking the thread a little bit here, but...

I actually use Ye Olde Magic Shoppe quite a bit. In a village, it'll be chock full of snake oil, cure-alls, herbs, and local remedies. You can find ...

DFN,

Do what I do to the poor Officers where I work...

Give them EXACTLY what they want.

PLAYER: I want a +2 morningstar!

ADVANCED HOBGOBLIN: You can have mine... Laughing

IvorMac,

I DEFINITELY want to see that sheet!

I worked up something that gives NPC levels off of the Town Demographics tables in the DMG, but I'm just not very happy with it. I'd love to see so ...

If your NPCs are as good as your write up on the Churches then I sure they will be very good. When you say appropriate level what are you levels are you considering?

Everything from the Priestess o ...

IvorMac,

I wanted to bounce the NPC "standards" off of you before I attached them to the Churches. Don't want a 3.5 Cleric/Sorcerer when you're set up for AD&D...

So I'm running through with 3. ...

Bad news, Dead.

See Starbreaker's Saint Cuthbert post, but he was a honest-to-God Earthling.

Since he died over 1300 years ago, he would've died about -700CY, about 200 years BEFORE the Baklunis ...

This is my last post as I am going to the islands and I will drink a rum drink for you guys... or two

Mmmm... Rum.

Go! Get outta here! Have fun! And we'll be here when you get back. Smile

DFN,

I take it that the nobles have not been assassinated en masse yet. If that is the case, the infighting probably isn't going to be actual fighting. Lots of politics, back-room deals, intimida ...

Oh Great and Powerful Overlord, you are both wise and clever! Smile

PSmedger wrote:
Ummmm, Canonfire would only be too happy to host the file. That IS what we are here for. ;-)

Actually, ...

Ah!

I should have led off with:
"Anced Math has me working on the "Gran March Project", and I need a little help."

No slight directed at anyone. I stand corrected. Smile

And mad praise f ...

Will do, Tedra.

I'll probably hit you up when I finish the NPCs, but that won't be for a week or so I'd imagine.

Thanks again! Happy

Tedra,

Thankyouthankyouthankyou! Happy

Don't sweat author credits and so forth; this is a draft to be ripped apart by everyone. Besides, I really don't care if someone rips me off. The Big ...

Woo hoo!

I are smart! Happy

Tedra,

Just sent the file.

Now we'll see if I actually found the RIGHT e-mail address! Smile

Do you have a personal website space that Verison provides?

I'm sure I do. Don't they give away space on Yahoo! and such when you sign up for e-mail? I'd imagine my DSL-provider is no different. ...

Tedra,

Thanks. I think. I'm not sure. Embarassed

I don't own a server that I'm aware of. I probably should. I should probably own cufflinks too, but I don't know what those are used for either.
...

Greetings all!

I'm working on Anced Math's ''Gran March Project" and I need a little help.

You see, I have a 13-page file on my piece of the project (Religion and Churches), but I don't think po ...

A few more thoughts on the refugees, and how it relates to the mapping.

Population of Geoff before the invasion was 70,000. Figure 10% of that was immediate call-up of militia and the standing arm ...

It's not the title changes I'm worried about anymore.

It's Tedra's changing Avatar. That's scary! Shocked

Okay, a web link it is.

Hopefully somebody knows how to set one up, because I haven't a clue. Embarassed

Any help?

Tedra,

Soon you'll be a Master Greytalker! Smile

I will never attain the rank of GreySage. (sniff)

Hmmm...

There seems to be a distinct lack of members around here. Though Greytalker works better.

I vote we also change "lurker" to "GreyStalker". Laughing

Just kidding, folks. But now I do ...

Okay, it's been a while, huh?

Opinion question; do I post the updated church information here, or do I send it to someone smarter than me for a web-link?

The paper is 7 pages. Without Pholtus a ...

IvorMac,

I agree about few (if any) refugees making the trip to Hookhill. But people with measureable coin in pocket would certainly see the financial opportunities east of the Dim Forest, especia ...

Anced Math,

I wasn't so much looking at traditional refugees, i.e. huddled, unwashed masses. But people of some influence or means that relocated from Geoff to safer lands, like Hookhill.

This ...

Anced Math and Yabusama,

You're right. I must stop thinking of warfare as requiring 60-tons of diesel-powered death, close air support, artillery barrages, and infantry operations. Embarassed

Swam ...

Yabusama,

I REALLY Exclamation

like the way Hookhill is shaping up! Excellent work!

Now, my questions/comments.

I thought I read somewhere that Hookhill had increased it's population by a signific ...

Yabusama,

Comparing the maps, only the AtG map shows the city South of the Realstream.

Comparing the scale, the AtG map also has the Oytwood and the Dim Forest as one-half the size of the other ...

Vasiliy,

The Cave Troll (MM3) is exceptionally powerful. And stupid. I think it's CR (8) is far too high. Turn the Halfling Rogue loose on it, and pop some popcorn; it'll be fun to watch. Using ...

Nellisir wrote:
None of that is relevant, of course. Just wanted to make y'all feel old.

Eh? What? Ifn I was 50 years younger I'd... Laughing

1981. Heh, I bought this folder-thingy with a real ...

Maraudar,

Now you've gone and done it. More ideas!

I do think he would have a following among knights and soldiers though just for the aspect of perfection that he repesents in regards to sword ...

Thanks for the praise AM. I think it's a bit premature, but that's just me... Smile

Points of discussion:
Hextor... excellent except for one item. With a Commandant who is a priest of Heironus ...

Maraudar,

After looking at those sources on Kelanen (except Dragon 71), he looks very appropriate for the Gran March except for one area.

He promotes Balance and the AD&D concept of True Neutral ...

Wolfsire,

I like the coin idea. That crosses out of church/religion and into economy, so I'd bounce it off Anced Math. But like I said, I think it's a cool idea.

Maraudar,

I don't know who ...

Kirt sayeth,
3E question - have the old FF "nagas" survived into 3E? If so, there definately has to be a process for making "nagahide" couches. ;)

Yes, the Nagas survived. But after that pun, y ...

IvorMac,

My only quibble is that since we are using N1 as the opening to the campaign it states that Orlane benefactor is Merikka and there is not other god mentioned. So I would suggest the Bishop ...

And finally...

Heironeous
Since the Knights of the March stood against the evil and chaos that threatened the Sheldomar Valley, the church of Heironeous has been strong in the ranks of the militar ...

And two...

Pholtus
The Gran March is not alone in the Flanaess in having an extensive codified system of laws. That the clergy of Pholtus were authors of many of these laws is also nothing unusua ...

Here we go, the Big Three...

Saint Cuthbert
That there are many Lawful chapels in Gran March should come as no surprise. What is something of a surprise is how rapidly the Church of Saint Cuthber ...

I've got three more churches to flesh out, and then I'll turn to on the factions.

I'm thinking that the Mercantile will be the most influential, holding most of the money and so on.

Cuthbert I i ...

And, my last one for the night. The female hero deity of the mercantile women of Gran March...

Inessa
For hundreds of years, women in Gran March have tended to the homes and businesses of their h ...

And for my next trick...

Hextor
Though not widely known throughout the lands of Gran March, there is a foothold of an evil deity operating in the open in one of the largest cities. Hochoch, swell ...

I said I'd have some stuff by this weekend. So here's some more religious matters to chew over with your Easter eggs...

Obad-Hai
One of the more noticeable churches in Gran March is defined by it ...

When you look at the Oeridian goddesses in terms of wind direction, not all of them would be appropriate. If you look at the seasonal aspect however, they become more relvant.

That said, cutting t ...

Okay, here's what I've got on the Oeridian agricultural/nature pantheon...

The most commonly worshipped deity in Gran March is not actually a single entity, but a loose pantheon of Oeridian gods ...

AM,

I like the idea of a local Hero Deity the best. Unfortunately I have no d20 products (except War, and let's not discuss that), so I would have to make up this Demigod from the DDG. Should wor ...

AM, good news/bad news!

I found your female god of trade/commerce/merchants!

Okay, I know this is probably heresey, and I'll be burned at the stake. It's Waukeen out of Forgotten Realms' Faiths ...

You mentioned that the Oerdian Agri gods are not unified, how do you mean?

I like the idea of them being worshipped as a pantheon, and that is the only way I see them making it in the top 4... but ...

For Canon purposes; definitely.

Which brings up Denarri. Example of a mystery cult in the back of the DDG, after Elishar and Toldoth. An earth-mother type, similiar to Beory IMO. What about Dena ...

Summary so far...

Favorite gods are Heironeous, then Saint Cuthbert and Pholtus (or vice-versa depending on who you ask). The Oeridian agri gods are very popular among the citizens, but are not un ...

IvorMac,

With what's coming next on this part of the project, you may just be able to get what you need here. But if that doesn't work, I'd be happy to help out.

how did you come up with the idea that they should be added to greyhawk... they are not even in the correct part of DDG for them to be considered Oerth canon...

That's probably my fault. I mention ...

They're from Deities and Demigods (3rd Ed).

Taiia is an example of a monotheistic religion. Toldoth is the dark side of a dualistic religion (Elishar is the light side).

I think they CAN be wor ...

Al Akbar... I seem to remember reading somewhere that his cup and talisman had gone missing in this area. I doubt he is reviled. Not loved, not worshipped, but one of the grudging respect type dea ...

So we’ve got a little bit on who’s on the “A-list” (god-wise) in GM. There are lots of religions that aren’t as popular or prolific, but the worst reaction from GM folks would probably be an odd look ...

Anced,

You're on the East Coast, I'm on the West; you're too far away to be that deep in my head! Laughing

I'm thinking Heironeous as the "government approved" god, and therefore the most establis ...

Okay, looks like there's not much out there. Driving on.

Thinking out loud here...

First, let’s start off with some of the facts culled from 81/83/LGG. LGG has priority, as it is the “latest” ...

Hammarr,

Got it now. I wasn't sure which way you were going with "core". But now, I'd have to say that your numbers look dead-on.

And I hadn't thought about NOT being able to join specific uni ...

Hey all!

Looking for a little help before I throw this ball at Anced Math. He's already juggling enough...

Two quick questions that will help define how this neglected area will shape up for th ...

Once the member was reuinted with a horse, he would assume his old cavalry rank again.

Heh. So what rank was the horse? Happy

Hammarr,

Good job on the rank structure. Simplicity is key, IMO. However, a proposed change of mine would be:

-dump "Lance Corporal" from the infantry (no lances, just pikes/spears)

and
...

HJ,

Personal opinion here, but I'd tweak the cavalry distribution a bit. Here's why...

"Internationally renown mailed cavalry forms the core of Gran March's impressive army." (LGG, p50) In my m ...

I'm not sure of the exact title of this, but what about a horse-breeder's guild? GM loves the cavalry, and by extension horses, so I could see some sort of seal of approval on horses.

Probably not ...

AM, have you given any thought to hemp and other vegetable fibers? Popular today, they are a very old concept. I believe that certain plants were made into flax, but I may be forgetting the correct ...

Hmm, hadn't thought about brick. With soft earth/clay plentiful, brick would probably make the little available stone "stretch" to sort of fill in the gaps.

Which brings about the class issue. Ne ...