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There were numerous expansions described in the original, the cavern the pech were digging to, the deeper area reached by the waterfall, more maybe. The Caverns are rumored to be a planer nexus, so wh ...

I'm going to try to run an 1E AD&D online East Mark/Greyhawk Ruins campaign similar to the ToEE game I tried to run. But this one's going to be more free form, so all of those independent, evil PC ...

Isn't the outline of the castle design on the Hommlet map? I'm sure that's as far as development went.

Burne (but originally spelled Berne), Rufus, Jaroo, and Otis were all PCs from the original campaign.
Berne was played by Ernie Gygax, Otis was an NPC similar to Elmo originally, but later taken over ...

A few thoughts on the area.
The Shield Lands is not a place that follows the normal rules; it is not a kingdom. It is a collection of independent petty noble territories that have a combined military ...

I think you have to assume the 'order' evolved through time; it didn't come into existence as is.
Also, there has to be a reason why there is a limit on the number on monks above 7th. Some source th ...

The list of gods in the WoG guide are the primary gods worshipped in the Flanaess, gods culled from the old Oeridian, Suel, Baklunish, and Flan pantheons with some new ones added, the pantheon of the ...

If this is all a little bewildering, I am most interested in the timeline of:
LC of Tsojcanth
Isle of the Ape
HS of Tharizdun
T1-4
A1-4
GDQ1-7

Any assistance would be apprec ...

The DF forum has all of the DF Q&As, plus links to the same EN World Q&A, but the EN World links are broke.

The main ones were the EN World threads and the Dragonsfoot threads. There were a few other minor ones as well.

The EN links on DF are not working either.

Erelhei Cinlu is the first syllables of Gary’s five children, Ernie, Elise, Heidi, Cindy, and Luke, and would be pronounced: Er el hi sin loo.

Thus, by the time of Fate of Istus (576–582 CY?), the monastic hierarchy looks like this:
LEVEL RANK RACE
8 Master of White Dragons Bakluni
8 Master of Green Drag ...

I'm with DMP on this. I have just one order.
Going strictly by the (1E) book, if there were multiple monk orders, then you would think the leader of the SB would be a top level monk, but he's only 14 ...

I'm with DMP on this. I have just one order.
Going strictly by the (1E) book, if there were multiple monk orders, then you would think the leader of the SB would be a top level monk, but he's only 14 ...

Not notes, but recollections from players that had adventured there.

Scott

Hey Rossik, That’s actually the second incarnation of my message boards. I was just checking the threads, and it looks like I did not repost some of the files I originally had up. I’ll see if I can fi ...

Glad you enjoyed the write ups.
I’m too short on time and disorganized for anything more elaborate.

Scott

I wrote that, and the other articles too, with the help of Ernie, Gary, etc. depending on the character.

Scott

I've combined them both.
I use the CZ: Upper Works for the above ground portion and 1st dungeon level of the Tower of Zagyg. Things may change as more CZ material is released, but that's the set up f ...

Good luck.
I couldn't get anybody to play the Temple NPCs. Most just wanted to play evil PCs.

I’m very specific with spell books in my campaign.
My 1E method:
When a character levels and trains the character gets one spell that does not have to be copied from another source. Part of trainin ...

There's a ton of stuff in this. Some of it is good, some of it is bad.
The set up is the party trying to free a quasi-deity, or hero-deity type being that Zagyg, etc. has trapped. The party has to vi ...

I did have another question. Does anyone know if Garys CG had the same set-up as the modules? Three Towers: War, Magic, and Zagyg's? Each with a dungeon setting underneath.
It does not, but it woul ...

There's no problem. In most cases it shouldn't matter how the party learns, as long as they do learn.

Terjon may not be acting directly because he may not be sure yet. He may know something is ther ...

My set up was that the villagers, for the most part, don’t know anything is going on at the Moathouse. The troops there have been careful to NOT raid in the area to avoid suspicion and detection.
No ...

Didn't some writing imply that they had a hand in releasing Iuz? Like they gave Robilar some item to dispel the binding intentionally? Not a close follower of the post-Gygax material, but I seem to re ...

It may seem like they help law/good more often than an organization devoted to balance should, but remember since the time the setting has been published, evil has been on the ascendancy. Checking tha ...

I couldn't get enough volunteers, and none of the ones I did get were interested in playing the NPCs from the Temple. Maybe I'll try again some time down the road.

Scott

Well the EEG was a part of Gygax's ToEE, but that section never made it to Frank Mentzer when he was given Gary's notes and told to finish it, but the EEG and Tharizdun were definitely not the same en ...

Gary mentioned it a few times on message boards.
I also spent a lot of time talking to him about his original version of the ToEE, his version of the climax of the GD series, and the EEG.

Scott

Yes, it refers to the G-D series. The idea to run the super modules together came later.

When Gary started writing T1, there was no Zuggtmoy, Lolth was going to be the main demoness. He changed his ...

thanks guys, great answers!

i was reading otis stats this morning (yeah, i should have read all the book before runing the adventure, but i prefere to read chapters and then run the chapters. maybe ...

I agree.
And I’ve been running my own version of the dungeons for years, and that’s what I’d fall back on if the party makes it further than the detailed material.
In addition to what you've mention ...

Some Spoilers

Yes, there's a ton of info to digest, which I think is stalling the discussion.
Some quick thoughts:
It's a great product loaded with tons of adventuring mater ...

Here are afew early comments from the TLG bords:
http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5858&mforum=trolllordgames

Scott

In the past, I had magical plate (field & full) that could regenerate damage, but it was a special quality, and not standard.
Otherwise, I think this is covered in some of the skill descriptions ...

This is a quote from a GenCon thread dated 7/28/2008
"~Gary Gygax's Upper Works for Castle Zagyg will debut at the show."
Link:
http://www.freeyabb.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=5672&sid=ebbc2496de ...

With a person, I would say that was true, but since we're discussing an evil god, that lives on an evil plane, has titles that include Champion of Evil and Herald of Hell, my opinion is that he's fair ...

I always got the sense that Hextor chose an evil nature out of jealousy and as a challenge to heironeous. Even their doctrines oppose each other. Of course Hextor can rationaize, he isn't evil he is p ...

I'm somewhere in between, I guess. Some of the gods change very slowly, and will still identify the divine family they've been part of for thousands of years as their kin, while the gods of other fami ...

I wouldn't say most of the Oeridian pantheon was made up of ascended mortals, but it works for these two, IMO.
And I would definitely say that the Oeridian pantheon needs a lot if filling in. See the ...

Since the original descriptions have Heironeous choosing good and Hextor choosing evil, doesn’t the Heironeous being sired by a good god and Hextor an evil one angle seem a little trite? If that were ...

Bree yark mean, 'Hey rube'.

Scott

It's an interesting FYI, but I agree, in most instances the racial indicator should just be disregarded.

Scott

It’s hard for me to imagine a conflict between the various ethnic pantheons in the Flanaess, since I feel that the original ethnic pantheons no longer exist. The listed gods should be considered a new ...

I did a lot of history for the two in my campaign. Heironeous was a Charlemagne-type figure for the ancient Oeridians. They had the same father, but different mothers. Their father had united many of ...

Nyrond has coveted Urnst since it won independence, but hasn’t really acted on it since the first failed invasion attempt.
There’s also the Duke’s plan to marry his son to the Countess’s daughter to ...

I can't see the connection between Hawthorne's story and Greyhawk, other than the name.
The Face in the Abyss, however, was certainly the inspiration for Fraz Urb Luu's prison, down to the gold tears ...

"Not a nasty, dirty, wet hole, filled with the ends of worms and an oozy smell, nor yet a dry, bare, sandy hole with nothing in it to sit down on or to eat ...."
Bingo (IMO at least). Picture a neigh ...

Fate of Istus is set shortly after the ToEE adventure, so 580, or thereabouts.

Scott

I use the Fate of Istus material as my base for Verbobonc. And wing the rest. Haven't done any serious campaigning there though; just a diversion while running the ToEE.

Gygax wrote an adventure for the Slayers Guide to Dragons about the dragon steed Iggwilv bred for Drelnza. It's set in the Yatils to the east of Bissel.

Scott

I misunderstood the original post.
Sargent’s work can’t really be reconciled with real world order of precedence, so if you want to stick to it, don’t try to make it work. Just go with rasgon’s sug ...

It looks like your confusing baronets with barons or baronies. Baronets are not barons, and they’re not necessarily higher on the list than knights; a baronet is a hereditary knighthood, and while a b ...

Just another reference to consider: the Teleri, Tolkien's Sea-elves, had ships with great jewelled swan motifs.
In the HarperCollins illustrated version of the Silmarillion, they look similar to viki ...

MichaelSandar appears to have it pegged exactly. Considering all of the other stats are the same, the stat increase/4 levels since Robilar's RG level all going to Str would explain it. In that case, i ...

Robilar made it to 19th level. I'm sure that included several years of adventuring after the Rogues Gallery was published.
Robilar, like several of the RG characters, was a combination of OD&D an ...

Just seconding what DMP said, Gary was a proponent of heroic PCs in the mold of the larger than life pulp characters he was such a fan of. The PH text David cites reveals Gary’s thoughts on this. This ...

By the way, the stats for Robilar in the Rogues Gallery are correct. It was Gary and Ernie that didn't provide their actual character info, but the authors did play in the same campaigns as the PCs de ...

Per Gary, they did use 3d6 in the early days, but they rolled up numerous sets of stats, and then picked the best.
Also, as others have stated, there are numerous ways to have ability scores increase ...

I'm not sure if this info was published, but this was how Gary described the Citadel to me:
The Obsidian Citadel
The Citadel of the Eight is a massive fortress. The central structure of the complex ...

The campaign is under way, but I'm still looking for volunteers to control the leaders of the four elemental factions at the Temple.

Scott

I am looking for volunteers for an online multi-blind ToEE campaign. I will be looking for adventuring PCs, but also players to control the NPCs in the adventure, Lareth, the elemental faction leaders ...

The Father of Obedience is the Master of Autumn.

I just spotted this discrepancy last night. The Gazeteer and the Guide list the Father of Obedience (true name unrevealed) as Master of Autumn. Gr ...

One of the Slave Lords was a monk. Was he a SB monk, and what was his level?

Scott

Speaking of Tuco, I am planning on running a ‘multi blind’ online ToEE campaign, if anybody is interested. I was going to try this once before, but had to cancel due to some family issues, but I’d lik ...

The Scarlet Brotherhood isn’t the hierarchy, and vice versa. The Scarlet Brotherhood is an entity outside the ‘one’ monkish tradition. The Father of Obedience is a member of the monkish tradition. He ...

Keeping it 1E-based, there would probably only be one SB monk in the hierarchy. The Father of Obedience is the Master of Autumn. The only true SB ‘monastery’ may be in the hidden capital city. Since t ...

There was Murlynd's Ogre too, and perhaps some others in the Greyhawk Adventures hardback. I'll try to post the EX spells when I have access to my books, if nobody beats me to it.

Scott

Isn't there a gnome settlement in the Kron Hills mentioned in the background for Village of Hommlet? Greenway Valley maybe?

Scott

I've just started a new campaign. Most of the players are new to the setting and fairly new to D&D in general, so they have not played any of the classic adventures. The campaign has been going on ...

I was just reading through some old Dragon articles on the WoG, and I noticed this reference that I thought I'd add to the thread:

"Emasstus Carcosa, a well-known sage and Patriarch for the high se ...

It worked out well, and gave me a chance to run some adventures in the east, which I often neglect.

It was set about 583 CY in my campaign. I started the campaign in 578 or 579 in Sunndi, and used the events described in the Dragon 57 Sorcerers Scroll as a background and added some additional engage ...

I prefer the randomness of the encounter tables because it often results in an encounter with the ‘less than intriguing’ creatures that I might not usually consider, but end up being very entertaining ...

I use random encounter tables often. If it’s a journey then I use the tables from the 83 box set. If the party is staying in an area where some prolonged campaign action will occur, I will make one ba ...

I don't know how canon these are, or if they made any of the above lists, but these are from EGG's campaign.
Robilar had two sages, Herb, who was actually an apprentice of Otto's with sagely abilit ...

Except for the fringe states, you’re talking about groups of people who are 1,000 years removed from the cultures they are descended from, many of them part of the same empire for a time, and speaking ...

My primary issue was why two clerics of a good-aligned deity would start desecrating their temple and turn to evil with no more impetus than a being they're magically compelled to consider their "frie ...

This is a short write up on one of the characters I’ve had the most fun DMing for.

The Supernal Cedric Magno, High Priest of Saint Cuthbert, Order of the Billets

Cedric appears to be in his mid- ...

In the Robilar and Co. article, Rub Kuntz states that Robilar pays homage to Odin.
Erac's Cousin managed to summon Zeus after he and the fighter Ayelerach were duped into releasing Frazz Urb Luu.

...

Regarding the Regalia of Might, Tenser, the PC, has the good Crown of Might, actually an OD&D pre-cursor. This may be the inspiration for that rumor.
If there ever was a logical reason for Robil ...

Back to Tenser and his alliance.
Maybe somebody should do it, but I don’t think Tenser is the mage for the job. Tenser did start out as a neutral, so it’s possible he still has a certain neutral outl ...

Well, the Principality is a dwarf run state. The original Guide has the area as lawful good. In all areas save Gryrax dwarves are the more common race. In my opinion, the state would be more secular, ...

The module doesn't give a year, but reading the introductory material places it 10 years after Emridy Meadows.
I've never heard a set date for Robilar's adventure.

Scott

This is a tough one. Prior to Isle of the Ape is as specific as it gets. As long as you place it a few years before Isle of the Ape, which should be in the early to mid 580's, it will work.
As DMPrat ...

The year based on the module introductory information is 579 cy.

Scott

Confusingly, Troll Lords says CZ will be the ORIGINAL Castle Greyhawk of EGG's campaign but EGG seems to back off of that and seems to say it will be those parts "useful" to DMs or some such. I'm f ...

The original pronunciation was bur-NAY.

Scott

Lynn doesn't have to be another dragon-based land just because the elite warriors of the nobility ride dragons. Robilar was adventuring ina setting where dragons weren't that rare, and they weren't th ...

The outdoor random encounter tables are carry-overs from the earliest day of OD&D. There was a pretty basic formula: There's a town with a real big dungeon close by. You adventure in that dungeon ...

I've been running a ToEE campaign for my players here. They've been puting a hurtin' on the Temple. I'm looking for some players to join the Temple, rise through the ranks, and try to stop my PCs from ...

Lair of the Pit Fiend was never released, but the original material was recently auctioned on EBay. I think TZelios bought it.
Scott

Could be, I'll see if I can dig up the original reference.
Scott

There were two rival tribes based in the Greyhawk dungeons. One was the Dripping Blade. I can't remember the other.
Scott

I highly suspect that the original reference to "something" which might awaken beneath the Drachensgrabs was a hint about the Earth Dragon under Suderham.
The something which might awaken beneath the ...

I think WGR1 was where the Ring of Five were introduced. In that book the members are listed as Zagyg, The Black One of the Vale of the Mage, Leomund, Melf, and Serten.
Scott

I think Scott Gregg has some good insider info on that, you should ping him over on his ToEE board at http://doomsdaygames.proboards3.com/index.cgi?board=toee
Allan, I lost most of the good stuff whe ...

Tharizdun didn't steal the secret, Orcus gave it to him. Considering the rivalry that exists, Orcus giving Demogorgon anything doesn't make sense.
Scott