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What timing!

I was just thinking about this very subject last night, while preparing a player primer to the Salinmoor/Dreadwood area, and before seeing this thread!

I wasn't a contributor, but I would love to see all this great work compiled into a series of edited articles. Hope you get the green light from all concerned, O-D!

Thanks for posting that.

It matches my own interpretations on the subject, but great to have it shared here for future reference/discussion.

Great stuff!!! Thanks to all the contributors!

In spite of its misleading title and cover image, the Planescape adventure anthology Well of Worlds does not contain a well of many worlds.

Thanks for sharing all those great links, mtg.

I look forward to seeing where this discussion goes.

If you're going to include Storm King's Thunder, then perhaps the 3.5 adventure Expedition to the Demonweb Pits by Wolfgang Baur and Gwendolyn F.M. Kestrel should, arguably, also be added to the list? ...

Hello everyone

Dragon Magazine #343 - Princes of Elemental Evil (1986) (and AD&D1 Fiend Folio)

Thanks, Doc.

The above reference strikes me as incorrect. There is no way that Dragon Mag ...

Interesting topic.

I don't have the answers to all your questions, but I was under the impression that the Sea Princes primarily raided the Amedio Jungle for their "supply" of slaves.

As for the ...

As I recall, the Javan river is navigable by boat as far north as Cryllor (Keoland). The mountainous source of the Javan strongly suggests that there would be cataracts along its northernmost stretche ...

Thanks for preserving this convo, Artharn.

I believe it was in a Dungeon Magazine adventure, but it may have been in Rary, the Traitor, the desert nomads were called something like, "Twaregs". Later, I discovered that there is a real desert n ...

As Scott pointed out in

Thanks for that, Rasgon. Didn't realize Scotty had started a similar thread last January. I might have read it when originally published, but apparently only remembered the ...

Chakyik : "frères" in french and "brother" in english
Jacques

Hmmm... are you pulling my leg with this one?

Although I communicate more fluently in English, French is my mother tongue... and ...

I learned electrum mines are a real thing. I'm running a campaign set in the Kron Hills, which have electrum mines.
I thought to myself "electrum is an alloy of gold and silver! A man-made alloy! An ...

Doc, you might also find some interesting tidbits of lore in Allan "Grodog" Grohe's in-depth analysis of The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth: http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_s4.html

Iggwilv
Igg : Egg ?
wilv : Etymology : From Middle Low German and Old Saxon wulf, from Proto-West Germanic *wulf.
Wulf m (plural Wilw or Wilv)
wolf

Jacques

Neat! That sure gets the creativ ...

I was re-reading your writings on the Bakluni and Suloise pantheons. I'm very close to the bakluni pantheon. But for the Suloise gods? How does a pantheon have three sea gods without access to the se ...

I never fail to be astonished by how much I learn about our real world via the World of Greyhawk.

I was doing a Google search for "Paynims" (thinking it was just a name invented by Gygax) to see wh ...

I appreciate your very thoughtful reply, TS, and will be incorporating your insights into my campaign. Cheers!

Apologies for the double post.

Thanks for your reply, TS, and my apologies for not noticing it until now.

You provided an interesting, and, to my mind, reasonable analysis.

So assuming there are landed nobles within the Visc ...

I found this historical data fascinating, and look forward to purchasing the book from which the stats were reproduced - Slaying the Dragon, by Ben Riggs: https://www.enworld.org/threads/from-forgotte ...

Faerieluck, the Blood Moon Festival, and Great Moon's Glory are all celebrated in the Flanaess: https://greyhawkonline.com/greyhawkwiki/Faerieluck

A different case would be those deities who are ethically/morally based: Pholtus, St. Cuthbert, Heironeous, etc. They don't want CN, NE, or CE worshippers, and those folks wouldn't have any intere ...

One thing I like about 5E is that there is no longer a requirement for clerics to be within one step of their deity's alignment. In fact, there are few alignment requirements anywhere in the game.

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Vecna originally built the Silent Tower to act as the tailpipe for his Doomgrinder juggernaut. Unfortunately for him, Kas attacked him before he was able to assemble the two parts.

I say the above ...

There was speculation in an Oerth Journal about the elves of Celene originally have paths of song or some such by which they could travel across the Sheldomar Valley instantly. In the war with Vecna, ...

I know that there can be no direct comparison between medieval political structures in the real world and those found in D&D/Greyhawk. Likewise, the various people who have written for the Greyhaw ...

Some possible explanations:
- Because it was only there briefly, perhaps for a year or even less, before the Neheli arrived, and he hadn't gotten around to it yet.
- Because it had defenses that ...

Tharizdun. (Yeah, I know, "Why does it always have to be Tharizdun?")

Once upon a time I asked if there where overarching narratives for the whole Greyhawk setting. I posited that one such narra ...

...We know that Vecna's Rotted Tower was near present-day Shiboleth. Why did Vecna choose to live there and not in the Tower of Silence, since it clearly existed during his reign?
...
...why would ...

LGJ #4 states the following about the Lonely Tower of the Silent Ones:

An architectural wonder, the Tower of Silence seems an alien structure, defying the laws of sensibility. Rising from the groun ...

Thanks for taking the time to chime in, Rasgon.

Nice find!

There are a lot of nice features and nods to the broader Flanaess in that map (e.g., Westkeep Bridge, Fort Tavish, etc.).

Like most GH city maps, this looks a bit small to me, but I ...

In the Guide to the WoG (1983), From the Ashes (1992), and the Player's Guide to Greyhawk (1998), the god Cyndor's origin is listed as "C" (meaning "common in most areas").

The article on Cyndor in ...

An idea I've been playing with is that the Suel Imperium was much more multicultural and diverse than the Scarlet Brotherhood believes, including a Hong Kong-like colony in Suhfang/Shaofeng to the wes ...

In hindsight, I do kind of like the idea that Asiatic monks may have had an influence on the development of pre-Migrations Suloise martial arts (rather than via portal in 489 CY).

The pride of the ...

I can't speak with any authority on why Sean K Reynolds made the creative choices he did, but either he had forgotten there was a relevant chapter/scenario pertaining to the Scarlet Brotherhood in WG8 ...

Bissel was a long way from Keoland/Niole Dra so it also depends on whether or not the reasons Keoland was distrustful of magic was relevant to the commonfolk of Bissel? I can't remember off hand but w ...

Huh... I thought for sure that I'd find at least a basic random encounter table for the City of Greyhawk in the CoG boxed set or maybe on one of the reference cards in FTA, but... nope!

Good luck i ...

Thanks for sharing. Those all seem like reasonable suggestions to me.

Looks like I'll have to ask on the Discord server or the Flanaess Geographical Society Facebook group what people there might know about Maidenstone Keep and Nine Oaks.

Many fine people contrib ...

The wilderness map in B2 The Keep on the Borderlands is perfect for Bale Keep, by the way, complete with nearby fens and lizard men.

Good suggestion - thanks, Rasgon!

There could be marshes to both the south and west of Bale Keep, but the mists themselves come from the south because that is the direction of the coast, and the weather is dominated by moisture moving ...

I think that what the text might mean is that Bale Keep is along the Hool Marshes/Salinmoor border as opposed to the Hool Marsh Protectorate/Salinmoor border.

From what I gather, in 576CY any Keois ...

I 'm currently prepping my own Ghosts of Saltmarsh campaign, so in case this topic remains of interest to newbies...

I'm going to have Captain Xendros work with the cultists on the Isle of the Abbe ...

I'm working on a Saltmarsh campaign circa CY 576, and have a few questions regarding locations in the Viscounty of Salinmoor as depicted an Anna's awesome map:

1) Dun Mounds is found in Jay Scott's ...

For what it's worth, Eclavdra is a 23rd lvl single-classed cleric circa CY 591, as per the 3.0 Epic Handbook... if that's of any help.

I do realize that there is no direct relationship between AD&a ...

Another vote for Rauxes, here. - Perhaps not the obvious choice, but a detailed "year 600" version of the place could make for a pretty unique setting. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that "Ivid ...

Another vote for Gradsul and Niole Dra.

Just checked this out for the first time today... what an incredible resource! I'll add my voice to the chorus of "thanks, Lamashtu!"

Absolutely brilliant, Rasgon.

I think the problem with using real world food analogies is that it's always dependent on our individual take regarding each ethnicity's cultural reference we use. We can see from a lot of other threa ...

Regarding names, I never put much stock in trying to create 'ethincally authentic'-sounding names for different cultures in part because of the mingling that's happened since the Great Migrations (ju ...

Funny how we can end up with different interpretations of the closest real world analogs for the peoples of the Flanaess.

I picture the Suel as Germanic, with the northern barbarians basically Nors ...

Coming soon... https://www.beadleandgrimms.com/saltmarsh/reveal

The coolest thing in the set appears to be the battle maps, but I don't think 3 will be enough.

This bit could also be useful:

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Love this one.

They're coming out just in time for me as, assuming COVID variants remain under control, Ghosts of Saltmarsh is the first campaign I intend to run once we finish Lost Mines of Phandelver (we were thre ...

No disrespect intended to Raymond, but as a player I would be instantly turned off from Greyhawk if my first exposure was through the "joke module" that is WG7.

And I would probably never come back ...

2 sets of minis coming soon courtesy of WizKids: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/48766/wizkids-reveals-miniatures-from-two-new-d-d-saltmarsh-boxed-sets

Chris Pramas mentioned that the City of Freeport from Green Ronin was supposed to be located in the Lordship of the Isles.

I can totally see that.

I have never done anything with either the Lord ...

Awesome work!!! Love both the song and the video.

At first, I thought the rhythm guitar was a tad too bluesy for my taste, but everything comes together really well with that Led Zep middle eastern ...

I've noticed that a couple of the Dungeon adventures listed don't have specific locations mentioned so I was wondering how their locations on the map were reached?

For example, Evil Unearthed i ...

I'm 47 and have been GMing games set in Greyhawk on and off since 1987 or so (the first campaign setting I ran a few years prior to that was the Known World/Mystara, since I first played through all o ...

I recall that Thiondar's Legacy, from Dungeon Magazine #30, included a history of the Grey Elves and their founding, which was a separating from the High Elves. Though it wasn't set in Greyhawk, spec ...

Thanks for the shout-out to my blog Twiceborn. Smile

I would point out that the TSR Blackmoor adventure Temple of the Frog is already on the map.

My pleasure! I only "discovered" your blog ye ...

In the 3.5 module Red Hand of Doom, James Jacobs writes:

"For those of you who play in the Greyhawk campaign setting, we recommend placing Elsir Vale in the borderlands between Sterich, Geoff, and ...

That's great!

Any chance that you'll also be adding Axe of the Dwarvish Lords and Return of the Pick-Axe in the near future (see my previous post)?

Thanks again for all your work, Rich!

Ive a local copy for the map from Canonfire (originally linked from http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=512), im sending it to you by PM.

Sergio :-)

Woul ...

I agree with the removal of universal literacy, and would add that not all would be fluent or even proficient with the "Common" tongue used by merchants, the well-traveled, scholars/priests, and the u ...

Great job!!!

Now it's got me questioning whether I should be prepping a ToEE campaign instead of Saltmarsh (which I'm currently working on) for post-COVID times!

Cool.

Then yeah, if you're aiming to do your own music and melody, then that would be of interest... in the longer term for me, anyway. I've been out of work for a long time and have no D&D/Gre ...

Stylin LP38:

The lyrics to the Battle of Emridy Meadows ballad are great, as is the execution by the guitarist/singer.

That said, I would be concerned about the blatant copyright violation of Go ...

I've got one more, Longetalos: Axe of the Dwarvish Lords https://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/17283/Axe-of-the-Dwarvish-Lords-2e

According to the module:

"Within the Flanaess, the area near the ...

What a great resource! Thank you so much, Longetalos!

Off the top of my head, here are a few scenarios I noticed were missing from the map, in case you are able/willing to add them:

. L3 - Deep ...

Thanks for your hard work and for sharing, Longetalos, I find this very useful.

The most surprising finding is that... most countries in the Flanaess have a lower population density than Canada (wh ...

Flint, Rasgon,

Thanks for the tips/info.

That's a good start!

Thanks for your help, smilan_31!

Does anyone know of a comprehensive index to Greyhawk-related articles in post-Paizo Dungeon and Dragon mags?

Thanks in advance for your time and assistance.

While it's not canon, it's worth noting that some sources have indicated that even some of the "common" deities are known by culture-specific alternate names in certain regions.

For example, acco ...

How about this?

http://www.ritepublishing.com/breakingofforstornagar.html

According to Amazon, the books should be released May 21, 2013: http://www.amazon.ca/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_1_10?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=advanced+dungeons+and+dragons+2nd+edition&spref ...

It is worth noting that the slave lords compilation will also include A0 "Danger at Darkshelf Quarry."

Reposted from [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf//modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5254] this thread.

This news doesn't seem to have gotten much attention from the community, so I tho ...

With a nick like Twiceborn, I figured you would have read the second book by now.

Oh and like Cebrion said. DO IT... DO IT... Come on Twiceborn, you can DO IT... Wink

Later

Argon

I'm w ...

I hope he doesn't end up needing this sort of set-up...

http://media.weirdworm.com/img/misc/7-weird-movie-scenes/clockwork-orange.jpg

...but somebody start up Beethoven's Ninth Symphony just in ...

I read it for the first time last year. I found it a very painful read, one of the worst books I've ever read, but somehow I made it to the end. That's all a matter of taste, of course...

I have th ...

No option for Pathfinder? Neutral

I was happy to advance through the editions until 4e stopped me cold. I really liked every earlier edition, though, especially 3.5. However, once I began playin ...

The Apocalypse Stone isn't that old. I think it was 2nd Ed., though it may have been late AD&D.

The premiss of the adventure was that the DM and the players were all ready to retire their ...

[url=http://paizo.com/products/btpy8q8e?Way-of-the-Wicked-Book-One-Knot-of-Thorns]This adventure path might provide a good model for parties of cooperative evil PCs. I must admit that I do not own it ...

Sample these two CDs by Dronolan Tower (orchestral music composed specifically as soundtracks for tabletop RPGs by a gamer... and recorded with a real orchestra!):

http://www.myspace.com/dronolan
...

12 out of 22... not great, but decent...

Heh... instead of performance enhancing drugs, the authorities may need to police illegal performance enhancing magic. I can imagine there would be fairly strict rules with regards to the type of mag ...

There are several books mentioned in Dragon #253, and various other issues list books from time to time, but the best list I've seen is in the article "Spells Between the Covers" in Dragon #82. I seem ...

Lastly, who is Felnorith? Gord's Greyhawk states that he is an elf but I am sure that I read somewhere that he was a human warrior with a noted collection of magical blades. Also, wasn't there a nas ...

"Dude, you can't have my Bud Light."

You drink that swill???!!! Sorry, no manly love reflected back at you... Laughing

There is also a tiny bit of information in the Alderweg series (UK2 & UK3) two of my personal favorites. I've run both of them numerous times and well probably be running them again soon actually ...

Currently playing Andolphas Hecker of Diamond Lake, 2nd level cleric of Wee Jas, in a Whispering Cairn play by post. Hopefully that gets me somewhat back in the good books on this site, after mentioni ...

My sincere apologies for the unintentional derailment. Didn't think it would go as far as it did. Now back to our regular program, on maps...