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      Topic: half orcs and society
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jan 20, 2009 2:48 am   Subject: half orcs and society
    Ultimately, you have to decide what's best for your campaign. Half orcs are clearly intended to be a playable race, so setting them to be "kill on sight" is not good for that. On the other hand, m ...
      Topic: WoTC mines Oerth
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 82
    Views: 38069

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:31 am   Subject: WoTC mines Oerth
    Yeah, there's a fair bit of GH name dropping and such. The Saltmarsh write up I actually thought was awful, though. And the "GH" gods in 3rd are only similar to the real GH gods. Quite a lot of t ...
      Topic: WoTC mines Oerth
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 82
    Views: 38069

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:59 pm   Subject: WoTC mines Oerth
    Hmm, international policy isn't appropriate for this forum. Sadly, I can't resist correcting blatantly false information. Your understanding of the IMF and the World Bank is seriously flawed. Some ...
      Topic: WoTC mines Oerth
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 82
    Views: 38069

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:22 am   Subject: WoTC mines Oerth
    I don't know about whining and bashing WotC. I could care less about that. I do know they haven't managed to produce a single thing I've wanted to buy since the 3.0 core rules came out (I did buy th ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 10:24 am   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk


    Finally, though real-life mythology and religion can be useful when fleshing out the planes and the gods it really can't explain the cosmology of D&D simply because all of these gods and being ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:31 pm   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Sorry, I know next to nothing about mythology.

    Unlike in fantasy campaigns, one's patron deity was usually determined by where one was born (mediterranean religions particularly) or one's social st ...
      Topic: Legal question about Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 20
    Views: 11245

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:53 pm   Subject: Legal question about Greyhawk
    Yes, you can post it. What you can't do is deny that the trademarks are WotC's rather than yours and you can't make money off of it. The only way a fansite like this is going to get in trouble is i ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:48 pm   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Bah. You don't survive on any forums, even relatively mild ones like this one, if you get offended that easily. I certainly don't. You can disagree with my ideas all you want. I'm perfectly capab ...
      Topic: Magical armor and repairs
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 15
    Views: 10869

    PostForum: Welcome to Greyhawk!   Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 3:19 pm   Subject: Magical armor and repairs


    You guys are really beginning to depress me! Sad



    You just need to realize that there are bazillions of rule books out there, only two of which are necessary to play the game: The DMG ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:15 pm   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk

    Each of us will run our game in the manner we see fit. And this is both fitting and proper, we are the DM. I'm simply trying to explain, as simply and logically as I can, why your method does not wo ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 10:41 pm   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    I didn't say they all got the same reward. I said they all went to the Land of the Dead. Sure, there were various minor exceptions. The Einheriar of Valhalla and of Freyja's hall were a tiny fract ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 7:18 pm   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Well, my academic background is in cultural anthropology and religious studies, so that affects my thinking on these matters. I tend to approach things from more of a 'real world' perspective than a ...
      Topic: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 65
    Views: 36498

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:36 am   Subject: Raising Dead/Resurrection in Greyhawk
    Well, I do things rather differently.... First, most of my "priests" are not spell wielding clerics. Those are the equivalent of special orders. So its not that easy to find someone able to ...
      Topic: Greyhawk Through a 4th Edition Darkly (Gencon)
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 22
    Views: 13858

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:51 am   Subject: Greyhawk Through a 4th Edition Darkly (Gencon)
    Are you asking if I agree with GVD that the whole edifice of Greyhawk will crumble without the Great Wheel? No, I don't. Don't use it in my campaign in the first place.

    But it is the way Greyha ...
      Topic: Greyhawk Through a 4th Edition Darkly (Gencon)
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 22
    Views: 13858

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:18 pm   Subject: Re: Greyhawk Through a 4th Edition Darkly (Gencon)


    Why would you say that? The Great Wheel is used to show how belief shapes reality. But Greyhawk normally uses planar connections simply as a fantastical adventure location without worrying about ...
      Topic: So Many Hordes - So little Information
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 4675

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:59 pm   Subject: So Many Hordes - So little Information
    Speaking of Wolf Nomads, are the Rose Estes Novles about the Wolf Nomad Mika-Oba considered part of cannon?

    Just in case this was a serious question..... NO! *laughs* Rose Estes is generally co ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:57 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    The 'problem' with the dragons in GH is not that they don't exist.. they are all over the place. Its that they don't /do/ anything. Brazzemal dozes all day in the Hellfurnaces. There's that drago ...
      Topic: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 7381

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:33 pm   Subject: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    I pretty much agree completely,though I don't have exactly the same choices as yours. I've made other changes and interpretations along those lines, however. Wee Jas is the 'leader' of the Suel ...
      Topic: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 7381

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:36 am   Subject: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Yes, the general Greyhawk tendency in the Gygax era was always 'we have cool races and actual pantheons, but...uhh... they don't matter and everyone gets along just fine'. I never particularly care ...
      Topic: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 7381

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:12 am   Subject: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Well, dunno if the answer is simple.... but its pretty obvious: make it up. That's what I did, which is how I ended up with the groupings that I have.
      Topic: Heironeous and Hextor
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 31
    Views: 16256

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:27 pm   Subject: Heironeous and Hextor
    Eww? That's almost de rigeur in divine circles :P Though if you mean She's actually a hermaphrodite who literally self impregnated, then you would be a little out there....
      Topic: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 7381

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:16 pm   Subject: Conflict between the Ethnic Pantheons
    Well, I don't have fighting between the pantheons as a specific theme... I mostly have a Gods vs Demons theme in that regards, with the different pantheons reluctant allies in that. But I do play u ...
      Topic: githyanki, GH, and psionics
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 25
    Views: 13873

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 11:58 pm   Subject: githyanki, GH, and psionics
    There are several meanings to mortar. The one he is using is the paste that one seals bricks and stone together when making walls.

    The gorgon blood thing wasn't a rule... it was an example given i ...
      Topic: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 15
    Views: 9976

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:25 am   Subject: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Sure thing.

    Changing the denomination would work.. that's a "realistic" price guide for medieval era England (prior to the late 13th century introduction of the longbow and the even later introduct ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 12:20 am   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Actually, IMC he's a demonlord rather than a demi god. But I use a variant cosmology where the gods are one team and the demons are the other.

    Wastri is more of the semi-half-sort-demi-god of the ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 10:07 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape


    So long as the Big Three are percieved to be the Big Three - that perception fostered by their overexposure - they will tend to continue to appear and only increase their overexposure thereby. It ...
      Topic: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 15
    Views: 9976

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:04 pm   Subject: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Well, neither of those things are particularly what I was talking about, but whatever. You want a more historical (snerk) price list? Here you go. Oh, this is the 'big city' price list. Things ...
      Topic: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 15
    Views: 9976

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:08 pm   Subject: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Well, every game has pricing already (though some are more abstract than others). You can also find 'historical' prices with sufficient diligence in websearching.

    But you won't find prices for al ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:00 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    The incompetent game designer will use them if they can argument is rather flawed. The incompetent game designer will do poor quality, incompetent work whether or not its with Iuz or Wastri or someo ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 9:39 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Umm, if that is your point I have absolutely no idea what you are responding to. There's not one suggestion anywhere in this thread that Iuz ought to be walking around laying smack down personally. ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 8:10 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Well, that assumes that they care... But assume they do. What do you propose that they do? Stride into battle and smite the legions of Iuz? Iuz isn't on the front lines slinging divine power agai ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 4:40 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape

    If not, then whats the sense of maintaining any level of continuity.



    Continuity is not stasis. Vecna being a god and half the Great Kingdom being trashed or ruled by undead is no more "cont ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 3:18 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    At what point does your position differ from "thou shalt not change at all"?
    The published world of Greyhawk....and in particular the bits we are arguing about... are not EGG's vision anymore. ...
      Topic: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 15
    Views: 9976

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 11:07 am   Subject: A more realistic Equipment Pricing?
    Its hopeless, sorry. You are better off going with game balance like D&D does. Nothing else about D&D or its *cough* economics is even remotely realistic, so imposing realism on pricing is ...
      Topic: I Know Greyhawk and Golarion is No Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 5766

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 22, 2008 2:09 am   Subject: I Know Greyhawk and Golarion is No Greyhawk
    I could be wrong, but I thought smillan was making fun of the lack of originality that is in some Greyhawk stuff. ie "Yeah, some of the Golarion stuff is goofy, but do they have an Orcreich?"
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:04 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    I'd personally have Iuz regrouping after the Flight of Fiends, concentrating his personal attention on Abyssal matters as he restores the web of alliances and servants that he had prior to that. Mea ...
      Topic: I Know Greyhawk and Golarion is No Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 11
    Views: 5766

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:41 pm   Subject: I Know Greyhawk and Golarion is No Greyhawk
    Well, I haven't bothered to get any Pathfinder stuff but I suspect you are overly harsh in some of those things. Its not really possible to be entirely original. If those places are all transparent ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:43 am   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Well... the whole idea of gods as an active villain the PCs are directly confronting is very bad. I don't think anyone was actually suggesting that. The fact that the PCs do that with regards to Iu ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:58 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    There are certainly plenty of other evil gods and an functionally unlimited number of demon lords and the like to use if you are interested in setting up bad guy groups for your campaign.

    There ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:14 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape


    I do think it is rather funny that there is call for Tharizdun to go when he isn't even there in the first place.

    Maybe you missed how they turned every reference to the Elder Elemental God i ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:04 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape


    To redevelop Iuz now - at this late date, after all the poor use he has been put to - would IMO stretch credibility within the setting and, if Iuz was not not overexposed before (for sake of discu ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:19 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Well, Mort, I agree with some of your post. Iuz really needs to get out of stasis.. either he needs to be shown to be effective or he needs to get clobbered. I'd rather he was made effective, since ...
      Topic: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 130
    Views: 68921

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 5:53 pm   Subject: Next Gen GH Begins to Take Shape
    Tharizdun is definitely overused, considering he's supposed to be a secretive and mind boggling whacko god that hardly anyone remembers. Not to mention all this bs about him also being the Elder Elem ...
      Topic: Pathfinder (Golarion) & Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 13
    Views: 7782

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 6:14 pm   Subject: Pathfinder (Golarion) & Greyhawk
    Add in that your best and brightest (or a large fraction of them) are studying some form of magic and you have even less reason be assured of technological innovation.

    As for why wizardry doesn't m ...
      Topic: Iuz =cambion : why not tiefling?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 23
    Views: 9698

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 5:59 pm   Subject: Iuz =cambion : why not tiefling?
    Yes, its right. Tieflings "merely" have lower planes ancestry, as mentioned. They explicitly do not have an infernal parent. The relationship is more distant than that.

    Cambion and alu-demon wer ...
      Topic: ToEE, Cuthbert and Iuz
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 6
    Views: 7490

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:02 pm   Subject: ToEE, Cuthbert and Iuz
    Well, Greyhawk does have too many deities if you add in the swarms of gods that have been retrofitted to the world since the original Folio and Boxed set.

    There aren't /that/ many gods in the origi ...
      Topic: Me Grognard. This Greyhawk.
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 55
    Views: 48293

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 12:06 am   Subject: Me Grognard. This Greyhawk.
    Yeah, unless you started with Greyhawk there's never been any confusion about whether Lolth is a demoness or a Goddess. She was a demoness in 1e GH (and like all the major demon lords, effectively ...
      Topic: Death to Boccub! Or, Death to Boccub?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 15
    Views: 11933

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sun May 25, 2008 2:30 am   Subject: Death to Boccub! Or, Death to Boccub?
    Yeah, several of the guys who wrote the Ars Magica rules ended up as part of the 3rd edition design team. Anyway, I'll add to the agreement that Ars Magica is an awesome system. Melee combat is a ...
      Topic: March of Sterich
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 23
    Views: 11963

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 6:42 pm   Subject: March of Sterich
    The short version on Resbin is that there is no consensus. Flan, Zahindian, and Olman are the three candidates. You can construct strong arguments for and against the reasonableness of all three c ...
      Topic: WotC Merges Forums
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 26
    Views: 19223

    PostForum: The Backalley   Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:59 pm   Subject: WotC Merges Forums
    Uhh, I don't see where you get the game for free. Unless you mean the playtest editions.

    And I haven't the faintest idea what BESM is. You do, once in a while, see something that isn't D&D o ...
      Topic: WotC Merges Forums
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 26
    Views: 19223

    PostForum: The Backalley   Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 4:51 pm   Subject: WotC Merges Forums
    I seriously doubt that Pathfinder will do better than 4e. Fourth edition isn't the sort of fantasy game I'm interested in playing, but there are lots and lots of folks who are into exactly that kind ...
      Topic: gary and his group had lucky dices?
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 19
    Views: 13084

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat May 17, 2008 7:53 pm   Subject: gary and his group had lucky dices?
    I don't know about the Oerth Journal article, but one thing to keep in mind about older sources of information on the PC based characters in Greyhawk: Gygax refused to give anyone the stats for them ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 58
    Views: 42433

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 10:22 pm   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Eileen, I think he meant the fudge that 3e used saying that Erythnul was granting Yeenoghu's gnoll clerics their spells in exchange for unspecified favors was 100% lame. Not simply using the thralls ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 58
    Views: 42433

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:16 pm   Subject: Re: Shuffling from main thread, oh my!
    Greyhawk is using the default Nature of Religions and Nature of Divinity from 3.0E Deities & Demigods so demon lords and devil princes can not start as a god, but becoming one is another story. ...
      Topic: Oearth human language chart
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 35
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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 7:12 pm   Subject: Oearth human language chart


    So that leaves the door open for plenty of additional languages and dialects for the individual DM to make up.

    Sure, but you rarely see much actually done with this. Primarily because people ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 58
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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 6:57 pm   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    The quote I gave you is from the original printing of Deities and Demigods in 1980. The one with the Melnibonean and Cthulhu Mythos still in it. I never bothered with later editions, so I don't kno ...
      Topic: Oearth human language chart
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 35
    Views: 19183

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 12:09 am   Subject: Oearth human language chart
    Well, I think that every country having its own language is probably too far, but the basic GH structure is overly simple. Just look at Europe. There are a few big languages "Germanic" "Latin" ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 58
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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:37 pm   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    The other thing you might be overlooking is that the adventure modules were in effect the sourcebooks for Greyhawk during the 1st edition era. The Folio and the later boxed set campaign setting and ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 58
    Views: 42433

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 5:19 pm   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Lolth was introduced in the D-series, which came out before Dieties and Demigods, for one thing (not sure if she's in Gods, Demigods, and Heroes). In fact, she was printed as a demoness in the Fiend ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 58
    Views: 42433

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:06 pm   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    The 4e alignment system doesn't particularly support designations such as Lawful Evil and Chaotic Evil. Alignment is, in fact, largely irrelevant from what has been revealed. Both 4e demons and de ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:16 am   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    To be honest, your views on monster appearance and what makes something a demon or a devil are so different from mine that I'm having a hard time grasping what you are saying. So I think I'm just goi ...
      Topic: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:45 am   Subject: Reshuffling Devils and Demons in 4e - Oh My!
    I'd just like to point out that law and chaos is about how one acts, not about how one looks. Lolth most certainly acts chaotic, regardless of whether or not you think a dark elf form is suitable fo ...
      Topic: Me Grognard. This Greyhawk.
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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 8:42 pm   Subject: Me Grognard. This Greyhawk.
    No revision is necessary.

    No offense, but "Duh". However, what does that have to do with anything? I don't even need to use the MM.. I hardly do at all as it is. But if I am interested in usi ...
      Topic: Me Grognard. This Greyhawk.
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 6:35 pm   Subject: Me Grognard. This Greyhawk.
    The change is rather more extreme than you seem to think. Demon lords like Graz'zt and Malcanthet require massive rewriting, because their "shtick" is now only for devils. Frankly, most of the wo ...
      Topic: Preliminary thoughts on integration of 4e into Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu May 01, 2008 7:10 pm   Subject: Preliminary thoughts on integration of 4e into Greyhawk
    Seems to me that the easiest way to deal with dragonborn is to just change their background fluff to suit them replacing the lizardmen that already exist in large numbers in Greyhawk.

    But, frank ...
      Topic: Lendore Isles
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 6:18 pm   Subject: Lendore Isles
    Oh, there's a number of things to dislike about the post war material and the "elvish retreat comes to Greyhawk" is certainly high on my list. And the wild coast is certainly another.
      Topic: Lendore Isles
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 2:23 am   Subject: Lendore Isles
    Just don't tell Leomund. He's really sensitive about the subject.....

    There was interesting discussion on the subject of Lendor, Lendore, and the Lendore Isles last year (IIRC). I'm sure the thr ...
      Topic: 1st Editon Modules - Greyhawk Campaign
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 7:04 pm   Subject: 1st Editon Modules - Greyhawk Campaign
    Sinister Secret of Saltmarsh definitely rocks the Casbah as a starting point. Lots of good stuff you can do with that.

    If you are considering it, you might want to look at Wolfsire's excellent ex ...
      Topic: [LG] Bright Sands "Results"
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:53 pm   Subject: [LG] Bright Sands "Results"
    Oh, I like the Co8 fine. I just don't like seeing them turned into a GH equivalent of the Harpers. As a group of buddies who happen to be personally powerful, they are kind of interesting. There ...
      Topic: Distilling Greyhawk To Its Essence
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 46
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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:25 pm   Subject: Distilling Greyhawk To Its Essence
    Definitely agree with GVD's summary. Greyhawk is about its places and about verisimilitude.. it seems like a real world, not a stage for PCs. And that verisimilitude is conveyed with hints and ti ...
      Topic: [LG] Bright Sands "Results"
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 12:15 pm   Subject: [LG] Bright Sands "Results"

    As for Mordenkainen, he's always on his own side, seeing everyone as pawns no matter how powerful they can be. He'll always manage, indirectly mostly, to bend them to his needs. At last it's all abo ...
      Topic: 4th Edition Living Greyhawk Gazetteer
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 4:25 pm   Subject: 4th Edition Living Greyhawk Gazetteer
    Well, sure. That's pretty obvious. Its kind of like the "well, if you don't like the rule, just change it in your home game" argument. That's always true and there's nothing to discuss about it. ...
      Topic: Jus Cogens & The Nature of Evil in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 28
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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:31 pm   Subject: Jus Cogens & The Nature of Evil in Greyhawk
    In the real world of polytheistic religions (at least those organized into pantheons), there was a pretty clear division that allowed for jus cogens type arrangements. There was always "that gods" ...
      Topic: Distinguishing GH from FR
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Fri Mar 07, 2008 2:36 pm   Subject: Distinguishing GH from FR
    My point was that Greyhawk was consciously assembled from a variety of sources. Gary and Rob were rather vehement about not using the "official" campaign or any of their character's stats. And man ...
      Topic: Distinguishing GH from FR
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:40 pm   Subject: Distinguishing GH from FR


    3. Greyhawk has an organic feeling, because a lot of the things described in the initial releases of the setting were generated during actual play with actual characters, therefore defying any sor ...
      Topic: Will Greyhawk work in 4E?
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    Views: 10068

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 11:35 pm   Subject: Will Greyhawk work in 4E?
    Campaign Sourcebooks always trump core rules. The FRCS has all manner of changes to the core rules. So does the Ebberon CS. A GH CS would work fine as well in that sense.

    The real question is s ...
      Topic: Population levels in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 12295

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:33 am   Subject: Population levels in Greyhawk
    Well, I haven't studied the area extensively. It just doesn't look like that much land on my map.

    If it has strategic location, strong fortresses, and an importance to trade it would doubtless ...
      Topic: Population levels in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 12295

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 6:49 pm   Subject: Population levels in Greyhawk
    I'm not quite sure what your question is? You are wondering if the Janasibs should have large cities or not? I don't think so. There doesn't seem to be any good reason to form large cities there, ...
      Topic: Population levels in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 12295

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:09 pm   Subject: Population levels in Greyhawk
    Just because dwarves *can* be wizards doesn't mean that many are or that any of them are particularly powerful. Same goes for anything else. The PC classes are just that...classes for PCs. They ...
      Topic: Population levels in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 12295

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:37 pm   Subject: Population levels in Greyhawk
    The world of Greyhawk is amazingly unurbanized. The Sheldomar Valley is a massive area and it has fewer major towns and cities than England did in the 12th century, much less Flanders or Italy.

    T ...
      Topic: How Not to Die in 4th Edition
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 8:06 pm   Subject: How Not to Die in 4th Edition


    What I want from my game is consistency and and fun. If I wanted brutal reality I would play harnmaster where if the combat itself doesn't kill you, the infection rules will.



    hah. This hap ...
      Topic: 4e thoughts from non-WotC playesters
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 13473

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:10 am   Subject: 4e thoughts from non-WotC playesters
    I don't really see how it matters one way or the other. There's no rational reason for WotC to allow negative speech about a product still under development. After all, the whole point of playtest ...
      Topic: 4e thoughts from non-WotC playesters
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 2:26 am   Subject: 4e thoughts from non-WotC playesters
    Well, I've generally been of the opinion that the game would be well designed. Wizards has generally done a good job with game design and these particular designers are not noobs. The "issues" wit ...
      Topic: Why couldn't the Gods kill Tharizdun...?
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:39 am   Subject: Why couldn't the Gods kill Tharizdun...?
    There are lots of reasons. Perhaps they couldn't, because he was just too powerful. There is nothing saying that the gods known in the Flanaess today are the first ones in the world. Perhaps Th ...
      Topic: 4th edition Magic Items Slots/rules
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 24294

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:05 pm   Subject: 4th edition Magic Items Slots/rules
    Well, again, we don't know anything about the properties. That's the big flaw in the article. Sure, cutting out five item slots (7 for low levels if you count the rings as gone) is significant. S ...
      Topic: 4th edition Magic Items Slots/rules
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:36 am   Subject: 4th edition Magic Items Slots/rules
    The other thing that is implied in the article, but can't be known for sure since they didn't tell us what those items do, is that the non core 3 items are supposed to be much weaker than what is curr ...
      Topic: 4th edition Magic Items Slots/rules
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 3:09 am   Subject: 4th edition Magic Items Slots/rules
    I think you didn't read it carefully enough, Mortellan. Its quite a big change.

    First, all the "Plus" bonuses are now concentrated into three slots: weapons for attack/damage, armor for AC, and n ...
      Topic: Loans in Greyhawk
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:39 pm   Subject: Loans in Greyhawk
    Medieval loans were not structured like modern loans, with a percentage of interest due. You borrowed "X" amount of money and agreed to pay 1.5X on a specified date or whatever.

    Getting a loan whe ...
      Topic: Do you use Random Encounter Tables
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 12855

    PostForum: World of Greyhawk Discussion   Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:15 pm   Subject: Do you use Random Encounter Tables
    I use the ones in the Gazeteer as guidelines for fleshing out what sorts of creatures are present in a particular swamp, mountain, or other region. I don't actually roll on them to determine what the ...
      Topic: Updating GH for 4e - The FR Template
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:52 pm   Subject: Updating GH for 4e - The FR Template
    He's pretty much given those thoughts... at least up to 3rd edition. Dunno if he's bothered to comment on 4e or not. His preference these days is for stat block lite, skill oriented game systems. ...
      Topic: Traps to remain in 4th edition
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 6:46 pm   Subject: Traps to remain in 4th edition
    Well, yeah, I wouldn't actually run a long term campaign of any sort in a wuxia style game. But it would be interesting to read and maybe fun for a change of pace mini campaign.

    Anyway, my poi ...
      Topic: Rich Baker Clarifies 4e Points Of Light
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 8:47 pm   Subject: Rich Baker Clarifies 4e Points Of Light
    Do they actually have any Greyhawk names besides some of the gods? Which is something I don't think they are going to fix anyway. I'm sure even if they did make their own setting, they'd probably u ...
      Topic: Traps to remain in 4th edition
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 7:58 pm   Subject: Traps to remain in 4th edition
    To be honest, if this was just a new fantasy game, I'd find it kind of interesting. I like watching the wuxia style films and have played a few games that tend in that direction (Earthdawn does, for ...
      Topic: Rich Baker Clarifies 4e Points Of Light
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 2:03 pm   Subject: Rich Baker Clarifies 4e Points Of Light
    Ummm, what? Greyhawk has hardly brought homebrews crashing to their knees. No campaign setting has done that, though the FR has come closer than any other. Greyhawk was created as an exemplar fo ...
      Topic: Critical Hits in 4th edition
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 8
    Views: 5586

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:29 pm   Subject: Critical Hits in 4th edition
    I think that I've always disliked critical hits and always will. So I'm not overly fond of any mechanics for it. But automatic max damage is better than "multiple times normal damage" mechanisms.
    ...
      Topic: 4th Edition Elf is up
    Vormaerin

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    Views: 6572

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 7:43 pm   Subject: 4th Edition Elf is up
    I think that's what the Eladrin are for... The new elf is mainly surprising in the culture that they've given it, rather than the mechanics. And that was covered in an article some months back rath ...
      Topic: Paladin's Smite Attack
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 21
    Views: 15670

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 7:20 pm   Subject: Paladin's Smite Attack
    Well, the game originated as a tactical miniatures skirmish game and its apparently being moved back in that direction, except with an anime/video game polish instead of a wargames one.

    That doesn' ...
      Topic: Paladin's Smite Attack
    Vormaerin

    Replies: 21
    Views: 15670

    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 11:32 am   Subject: Paladin's Smite Attack
    The typical video game paladin is a "buffer". In the case of Diablo2, the paladin has a number of auras to choose from. Just like a D&D paladin has the protection from evil and resist fear ef ...
      Topic: 4th Edition Elf is up
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 3:22 am   Subject: 4th Edition Elf is up
    Yeah, I did notice that height/weight issue. Its beyond slender. The height of elves has always been world specific. They are short in GH, human height in the FR, taller than humans in Dark Sun, a ...
      Topic: 4th Edition Elf is up
    Vormaerin

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    PostForum: Greyhawk- D&D 4th Edition   Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2007 1:08 am   Subject: 4th Edition Elf is up
    Amusing as that is, I don't really think they are "dumbing down" the game. And using squares certainly isn't a dumbing down move even if they are. Its not really any different from the earlier edit ...
     
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