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    Apprentice Greytalker

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    Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:19 pm  
    La Grande Cuisine Flanaise

    Happy new year to all hawkers!

    This is the perfect time to speak of high gastronomy. Gary Gygax is well known for his epicurian tastes; he wrote an amazing restaurant scene in his novel (found in Saga of Old City, chapter 15, pp. 147-149).

    Gellor leads Gord in Holdroon, a suburb of Stoink, in the Bandit Kingdoms, and they enter the tavern owned by Tubb, The Horn and Haunch. The bill of fare follows, translated by your truly, if you want to add the french touch to your campaign.

    MENU
    Morsels of radishes with black skins, smoked rounds of eel, scallions and pickles
    Bouchées de radis noirs, roulées d’anguille fumée, oignons et petits légumes marinés au vinaigre

    Young giant crayfish soup with wine, cream and herbs
    Soupe de jeunes écrevisses géantes au vin et à la crème épicée

    Brace of squabs roasted, stuffed with green graps
    Duo de pigeonneaux rôtis, farcis au raisin blanc

    Mutton and legumes, seasoned with garlic and herbs
    Mouton et ses légumes assaisonnés d’ail et fines herbes

    Various sort of green, vinegar, fine oil and pepper
    Assiette de verdure à la vinaigrette

    Dozen cheeses and crock of butter
    Plateau de fromage et pot de beurre
    Goat cheese from Ket (Earth equivalent: fromage de chèvre)
    Cheese with great holes and sharp vaguely nutty flavor from Perrenland (Earth equivalent: emmental)
    Creamy smelly cheese made by Fruztii, named Djekul (Earth equivalent: St Marcelin)
    Ivory colored cheese with greenish marbling trough its center named Wickler from the Yeomanry (Earth equivalent: Morbier)

    Diminutive tarts, berry, nut, mincemeat
    Ronde des desserts : tartelettes aux fruits rouges, noisettes, amandines

    CARTE DES VINS
    Dry white wine from Furiondy
    Vin blanc sec de Furiondy

    Emerald-colored elvish wine from Celene or Ulek
    Vin elfique couleur émeraude de Celene ou Ulek

    Deep ruby-hued wine (untold origin)
    Vin rouge rubis intense (origine inconnue)

    Brandy
    Vieux Marc égrappé ou Cognac

    My questions are:
    Are there other sources –canon or not– with culinary references?
    Do you know other specialities from any country of Oerik?
    Where in the Flanaess do the best wines (red, white, rosé... green?) come from?

    As a side note, it is said that Pyremius is the God of Cooks, does anybody have details about this aspect of the God’s portfolio?

    I had a question about halflings but... nevermind.

    Thank you very much et Bon appétit!
    Grandmaster Greytalker

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    Thu Jan 01, 2009 1:47 pm  

    Excellent post.

    The only details on the bill of fare at the Inn of the Welcome Wench in Hommlet is the drink list, which includes:

    Wines -
    Keoish golden
    Sundish lilac
    Urnst white
    Celene ruby
    Furyondian emerald pale
    Velunan fireamber

    Brandies -
    Keoish
    Urnst (special aged)

    Liqueur -
    Ulek Elixar
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    Thu Jan 01, 2009 4:08 pm  

    Food! Ah, great way to get the table to order a pizza or Chinese! Happy

    Food for Thought Wink

    To add some ambiance to some of my games, I've drawn up a few menu types for some particular taverns of ill repute, such as the Green Dragon and the Black Dragon, of the Free City Greyhawk to name a few... my best found resource was actual medieval and classical history "cook books" which you can pick up thru Amazon or similar book supporters and there are also a number web sites that "cater" to such. Smile

    http://www.castles-of-britain.com/castlesf.htm

    http://www.pbm.com/~lindahl/food.html

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_cuisine

    You can "regionalize" the dishes to reflect certain areas of the Flaness by reflecting certain European/Western Asian countries of the classical to early to even late medieval eras. One book in particular which comes to mind is "Around the Roman Table" by Patrick Faas. Great for a sea bound country like Keoland or Hold of the Sea Princes, etc... Different staples of diet for different times of the year and based off of the geography can make a huge difference...availability, climate, etc...

    Then you can shake it up, add some fantasy cuisine such as sweet pepper and owlbear stew with golden Furyondy potatoes. Happy

    With such a menu made I would place scribble notes on the back relating important information for the adventure... Cool great prop with flare.

    Or the ordering of particular dish “not” on the menu to make a contact for that special exchange of info.

    Sometimes a meal could help or hinder the PC group (odd/new food might equal a mild to sevre stomach ache or actually promote healing or energy).

    Lots of fun thru food.... orc specialties could be elven blood pudding with a sprinkle of roasted roaches. Happy

    The possibilities are limited only by your imagination!

    Lets eat! and Enjoy!

    AncientGamer Cool aka BusterBudd


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    Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:26 pm  

    I remember there was a Dungeon adventure that dealt with an inn's special mustard made with memory moss...
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    Thu Jan 01, 2009 6:43 pm  

    Are you sure you remember that? Laughing

    At least this thread isn't about spaghetti with ketchup(cringe). Happy


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    Thu Jan 01, 2009 11:15 pm  

    Indeed, this thread is a good appetizer for the new POSTFEST 2009!
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    Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:08 am  

    Hello Galliskinmaufrius, was surfing some old Greyhawk sites and came upon this tidbit for Greyhawk brew.

    http://freespace.virgin.net/scott.rennie/beers.htm

    Enjoy Smile

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    Sat Jan 03, 2009 1:24 am  

    I had more than a bit of fun adding a menu to my postfest entry. Its sadly what took the most time. I limited myself on ingredients, mostly rabbit, sheep and game hens. Some of the recipes actually sound good! There are quite few reproduceable recipes available online. Just do a google search for medieval recipes. Medieval Recipes was quite helpful, as was Gode Cookery.
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    Sat Jan 03, 2009 3:17 am  

    not GH, but if anyone can find "The Inn of the Last Homme", a dragonlance suplement, it have lots of cool recipes, like cochee (elven dog, dont remember the name) cookies and the famosu Otiks spiced potatoes.
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    Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:15 am  

    BusterBudd wrote:
    Hello Galliskinmaufrius, was surfing some old Greyhawk sites and came upon this tidbit for Greyhawk brew.

    http://freespace.virgin.net/scott.rennie/beers.htm


    Oh, that's a gem! Thanks, BusterBudd.
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    Sat Jul 11, 2009 11:21 am  

    I don't have my notes on me, but, when I write up a tavern or inn, I always figure out the menu and drink list.

    Other than the "Welcome Wench" in Hommlet, the "Slumbering Serpent" in Orlane had a good wine that (once the trouble is over) would probably get some distribution; I don't remember if any of the inns/taverns in Restenford or Garrotten had a wine list.

    I think I remember one of the Gord books listing whiskey from one of the cold barbarian states, and rum from Duxchan (which would make sense); I think it's on my list...
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    Sat Jul 11, 2009 3:08 pm  

    The WOTC website has a random tavern generator that I use occasionally when I'm not feeling creative myself. It produces the name, bartender, NPCs, rumors, and a pricelist

    http://www.wizards.com/dnd/tavern/Welcome.asp
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    Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:44 am  

    Varthalon wrote:
    The WOTC website has a random tavern generator that I use occasionally when I'm not feeling creative myself. It produces the name, bartender, NPCs, rumors, and a pricelist

    http://www.wizards.com/dnd/tavern/Welcome.asp


    -Thanks. Happy
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    Wed Jul 22, 2009 2:00 pm  

    Another benefit of re-reading "Artifact of Evil" (p.133): Keak orders "Okelard Cheese of the smoked variety" while at the Inn in Shanscross, Veluna.
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    Wed Jul 22, 2009 5:48 pm  

    Varthalon wrote:
    The WOTC website has a random tavern generator . . .


    Never been to this site before. Thanks! Happy
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