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    Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:42 pm  
    Old School Maps

    Hello everyone, I'm new to the forums, but I've been lurking at Canonfire for quite some time.

    I've been working on a very high quality old-school style Greyhawk map for the past 12 months (Shocked ) and it's finally complete. It is 43" x 32", current through CY590, and in Adobe Photoshop format. It looks very much like the Darlene map.

    One great thing about the Photoshop format is that the map has separate layers for the map, geographic labels, cities and a hex grid. That way, a DM can edit the map or labels as he or she sees fit, without too much work.

    The file is 11.5 megs zipped. 30 megs unzipped.

    So, I have two questions:

    1) Can Canonfire handle the bandwidth for the Photoshop file? I also have a 24" x 18" version which is about 7 megs zipped.

    2) Should I also offer the map in a non-Photoshop format? The 43x32 map is 15 megs as a zipped jpeg.

    Since the file sizes are so large, I wanted to get some feedback.

    Here is a small preview taken from the 24x18 version showing Gran March and the Kron Hills:

    http://www.fof2forever.com/wogpreview.jpg
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:07 am  

    1. Yup

    2. Yup

    No hexes and coordinates though, huh?

    As you can see with myt recreation, it weighs in @ 30MB .bmp. (bmp!? it is supposed to be linking to the .jpeg version, grumble...)

    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/canonfire/abyss_cy589_darlene_map_redo.jpg

    I really don't like the "look" of my poorly graphic'd Darlene recreation, but it is necessary for me to have hexes Wink
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:11 am  

    Hiya GridIron,

    I have a question about the Photoshop format with the layers. It has a photoshop extension, right? I mean it will only open in Adobe Photoshop to be able to access the layers feature? I love the idea of the layers but I use Paint Shop pro, but not Photoshop. I like using a paint program to do a map and I've never used a map building program. I suppose just because I'm used to using PSP and I can do whatever I want.
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:33 am  

    abysslin wrote:
    1. Yup

    2. Yup

    No hexes and coordinates though, huh?

    As you can see with myt recreation, it weighs in @ 30MB .bmp. (bmp!? it is supposed to be linking to the .jpeg version, grumble...)

    http://www.greyhawkonline.com/canonfire/abyss_cy589_darlene_map_redo.jpg

    I really don't like the "look" of my poorly graphic'd Darlene recreation, but it is necessary for me to have hexes Wink


    The sample I posted doesn't have hexes, but the photoshop version does have a hex layer (but no coordinates). I suppose I will upload the photoshop version, as well as a hex and non-hex jpg version.

    BTW, I love your map, and used it among many others for reference in making mine. It's great!
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:34 am  

    Tedra wrote:
    Hiya GridIron,

    I have a question about the Photoshop format with the layers. It has a photoshop extension, right? I mean it will only open in Adobe Photoshop to be able to access the layers feature? I love the idea of the layers but I use Paint Shop pro, but not Photoshop. I like using a paint program to do a map and I've never used a map building program. I suppose just because I'm used to using PSP and I can do whatever I want.


    Photoshop extension. So, I suspect it won't work with paint shop pro. Sad
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:43 am  

    I wonder if I could go into PSP and do a batch conversion from Photoshop to Paint Shop....I don't know if you can, like changing a bmp to gif or what have you. Not sure if PSP has a Photoshop extension listed to convert.
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:14 am  

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    as well as a hex and non-hex jpg version.


    I would love a hexed and coordinated jpeg version! Wink
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    Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:11 am  

    Tedra wrote:
    I have a question about the Photoshop format with the layers. It has a photoshop extension, right? I mean it will only open in Adobe Photoshop to be able to access the layers feature? I love the idea of the layers but I use Paint Shop pro, but not Photoshop. I like using a paint program to do a map and I've never used a map building program. I suppose just because I'm used to using PSP and I can do whatever I want.


    I also create all my maps using photoshop. photoshop layers coding is protected by adobe, i'm pretty sure that no other programs besides adobe products can view and edit photoshop layers. If anyone has i'd be surprised.

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    Fri Oct 22, 2004 4:27 am  

    For those who want and/or understand the usefulness of Photoshop's layers, Adobe makes the lower-end product Photoshop Elements; it uses the same .psd format. It's around $50 (I think) -- not cheap, but affordable for some.

    My two cents here.

    Jack
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    and Photoshop Elements for animated gifs
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    Fri Oct 22, 2004 7:58 pm  

    Nicely done!
    Is there anyone out there that could blow up a Greyhawk city map to print on, sayyyy, four sheets of normal size paper? Is this even possible?
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    Sat Oct 23, 2004 2:54 am  

    Regarding four-page poster maps:

    Microsoft Excel can do it. Insert your image into Excel, then go to Print Setup. You can instruct the computer to 'fit to' 2 pages by 2 pages (or whatever). It may take a bit of fiddling to get exactly what you want, but that's it in a nutshell :)

    Later

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