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    Fri May 22, 2020 4:49 pm  
    Flanaess Pandemics . . . other than Red Death

    Does anyone know of any mentions of Flanaess pandemics other than the Red Death of WG8 Fate of Istus?

    Also: Does anyone know when/if the Red Death hit Celene?

    (I am trying to get a handle on how many quarantines and closings of her beloved theaters an older elf may have experienced.)
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    Fri May 22, 2020 5:04 pm  

    Yellow Eye [Disease]
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    Fri May 22, 2020 8:42 pm  

    Salinmoor Plague: (Living Greyhawk Journal #1) "The viscounty has seen more than its share of misfortune over the years, including a plague in the late 490s that wiped out nearly a quarter of the population."

    Neheli Disease: (Living Greyhawk Journal #1) "The last king before Skotti was Trevlyan III, a member of this ancient house and uncle to Duke Cedrian. This was three decades ago, after years of disease and disquieting rumors of madness damaged their prospects for a long-lived royal dynasty."

    Bonewood Disease: (Ivid the Undying) "Any who tried to stay alive in this place found themselves succumbing to disease or madness, haunted by phantoms and nightmares."

    Almorian Badlands Diseases: (Ivid the Undying) "The badlands are ghastly and appallingly dangerous. Diseased corpses infest the areas, and tormented undead of mindless savagery (Morale 20 in all cases, turn as two categories higher than usual) plague them. Floating clouds of stinking cloud/cloudkill effect may be found here, as well as ghasts and ghouls, seeking new victims to feast upon. The DM is at liberty to expand these areas and add perils and menaces. Examples might include: energy draining clouds of mist, choking black corrosive acid clouds which paralyze humans (but not demihumans), disease-carrying warped vegetation..."

    Ivid V's Wasting Disease: (Ivid the Undying)

    Rauxes Disease: (Ivid the Undying) "Player characters in Rauxes must make a Constitution check every week to avoid catching some form of disease, which will have the effect of reducing Constitution by 1 point per month until a cure disease spell or similar is used. "

    Furyondian Miasma: (Iuz the Evil) "A river-borne miasma spreading pulmonary disease among the Furyondians was mildly successful in the month of Readying and this is the kind of affliction Althea now hopes to spread to better effect in future."

    Plague Fields Plague: (Iuz the Evil) "Any creature setting foot within the 12 mile radius must save versus poison or acquire a wasting disease similar to mummy rot. If the central mile-radius area is entered, a fresh saving throw must be made at -4 to avoid this fate. What is worse, the illness is infectious..."

    Tuberculosis: (Iuz the Evil) Known as "rotting cough" in the Fellreev.

    Blackwell Plague: (The Marklands) "This is a deserted village wiped out by a plague in 579 CY. Fortunately the plague was so virulent that none traveled beyond the village to spread it before they died."

    Silverwood Elf Plague: (Living Greyhawk Gazetteer) "A relief effort is underway for the Silverwood elves, who are suffering from a strange disease."

    Nulvayahar: (Country Sites) "Nulvayahar is a condition unique to elves and half-elves; those without elvish blood can be neither victims nor carriers. No one knows what causes it or how it spreads. Cure disease does not stop it; sages speculate that it is not a disease of the body, but an affliction of the spirit, something between possession and insanity. It is highly contagious from one elf to another..."

    Ear seeker: (1st edition Monster Manual) "If this creature enters a warm place, it will always lay 9-16 tiny eggs and then crawl out to die. When the eggs hatch (4-24 hours) the larvae eat the surrounding flesh, generally burrowing inwards to where the most food and body heat is, killing their host 90% of the time. A cure disease spell will destroy the eggs."

    Rot grub: (1st edition Monster Manual) "These small creatures will viciously burrow into any living flesh which touches them, for they greatly enjoy such fare to dine upon. The victim must immediately apply flame to the wound... or have a cure disease spell cast upon him..."

    Slaad Fever: (3rd edition Monster Manual) "An afflicted humanoid reduced to Charisma 0 by slaad fever immediately transforms into a red slaad... If the infected being is an arcane spellcaster, the disease instead produces a green slaad."

    Filth Fever: (3rd edition DMG) "Dire rats and otyughs spread it."

    Devil Chills: (3rd edition Monster Manual) "If a bearded devil hits a single opponent with both claw attacks, it automatically hits with its beard. The affected creature takes 1d8+2 points of damage and must succeed on a DC 16 Fortitude save or be infected with a vile disease known as devil chills..."

    Ghoul Fever: (3rd edition Monster Manual) "An afflicted humanoid who dies of ghoul fever rises as a ghoul at the next midnight..."

    Lycanthropy: (3rd edition Monster Manual) "Lycanthropy can be spread like a disease. Sometimes a lycanthrope begins life as a normal humanoid or giant who subsequently contracts lycanthropy after being wounded by a lycanthrope..."

    Mummy Rot: (3rd edition Monster Manual) "Unlike normal diseases, mummy rot continues until the victim reaches Constitution 0 (and dies)..."

    Demon Fever: (3rd edition Monster Manual) "Each day after the first, on a failed save, an afflicted creature must immediately succeed on another DC 18 Fortitude save or take 1 point of Constitution drain..."

    Blinding Sickness: (3rd edition DMG) "Spread in tainted water..."

    Cackle Fever: (3rd edition DMG) "Symptoms include high fever, disorientation, and frequent bouts of hideous laughter. Also known as 'the shrieks.'"

    Mindfire: (3rd edition DMG) "Feels like your brain is burning. Causes stupor."

    Red Ache: (3rd edition DMG) "Skin turns red, bloated, and warm to the touch."

    The Shakes: (3rd edition DMG) "Causes involuntary twitches, tremors, and fits."

    Slimy Doom: (3rd edition DMG) "Victim turns into infectious goo from the inside out. Can cause permanent ability drain."

    Blue Guts: (Book of Vile Darkness) "This disease comes from eating the flesh of particularly disgusting creatures such as otyughs, gibbering mouthers, and gray oozes. It results in a bluish complexion, particularly around the creature's intestines..."

    Deathsong: (Book of Vile Darkness) "One of the worst diseases known, this terrible plague has laid waste to entire communities in less than a week. Victims of deathsong can do nothing but shriek and howl as their bodies wither and blacken..."

    Faceless Hate: (Book of Vile Darkness) "When a victim of this disease takes enough Strength or Constitution damage to 0, the infection disappears... but he becomes a monster with no face. The victim's alignment changes to neutral evil, and he becomes intent on killing all those who were his friends and family..."

    Festering Anger: (Book of Vile Darkness) "Brought upon by long-term, intense fury and hatred, this disease manifests as dark boils across the skin..."

    Iron Corruption: (Book of Vile Darkness) This disease comes from prolonged exposure to iron worked in conditions of extreme toil and misery. Iron corruption often spreads from a stab wound or an arrowhead lodged in one's flesh for too long. The victim is gripped with terrible chill. Her skin turns a dull metallic hue."

    Life Blindness: (Book of Vile Darkness) "The infected victim loses all ability to perceive living creatures, even plants..."

    Melting Fury: (Book of Vile Darkness) "Caught by characters who handle undead flesh... The victim's flesh slowly liquefies and 'melts' off his body until he is dead."

    Misery's Passage: (Book of Vile Darkness) "Brought upon by long-term, intense emotions of sadness and despair, this disease manifests as dark boils..."

    Possession Infection: (Book of Vile Darkness) "This malady occurs only after an evil spirit, outsider, or other dominating force has possessed the victim. The victim slowly becomes despondent and lethargic..."

    Soul Rot: (Book of Vile Darkness) "Creatures that eat the flesh of an evil outsider can contract this horrible malady. Soul rot eats at the victim's mind and soul until she dies a horrible, agonizing death..."

    Vile Rigidity: (Book of Vile Darkness) "This infection at first seems a boon. The victim's skin toughens... the victim's skin becomes thicker and thicker... This lasts until the victim's Dexterity reaches 0, indicating that his ever-thickening flesh has entrapped him. At this point, the victim dies of suffocation."

    Warp Touch: (Book of Vile Darkness) "One of the worst effects of chaos and dissolution, the malady known as warp touch has a random set of effects that manifest immediately."

    Ashdoom: (The Sinister Spire) "The horrific plague that devastated Pedestal's population is no mere sickness; it's a pestilence born of a corruption of nature and magic. Those who perish from this supernatural disease, known as ashdoom, do not rest easy but rise as plaguelost creatures. Although sentient, plaguelost have no motivations other than hatred and the desire to spread their sickness among the living."


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    Fri May 22, 2020 8:43 pm  

    As I develop two possible new campaigns (one in and around the Bone March, the other in and around the the Hold of the Sea Princes), I've been reviewing Samwise's Grand Sheldomar Timeline, Part I, which notes three instances of plague in Keoland.

    In -279 CY, a plague decimated the Suloise scions of House Neheli. Rumored to derive from the Dreadwood, King Nyhan II was one of its victims.

    In -123 CY, during the third war with the Toli, a dire plague wracked Keoland. Rumored to derive from the Amedio Jungle, the Toli lands, or a supernatural source, one of its victims was the heir of King Sanduchar I (The Navigator).

    In 7 CY, amidst further wars with the Toli, that plague recurs. One of its victims is King Luschan III.

    Samwise posted two other parts of his timeline, which expands on what the LGG and LGJ presented and may present further instances of plague.
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    Fri May 22, 2020 8:48 pm  

    mtg wrote:
    Samwise posted two other parts of his timeline, which expands on what the LGG and LGJ presented and may present further instances of plague.


    He went into much more detail in his article The Return of House Neheli and the Plague of Madness
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    Sat May 23, 2020 10:30 am  

    Wow! Thanks for all that, everyone!

    Wasn't there some mention in WG8 that the Red Death had hit the Flanaess previously? Is it possible that some of the plagues mentioned above (Neheli or Salinmoor, for instance) were actually earlier Red Death pandemics?

    What year was the Red Death supposed to hit in WG8?

    My recollection was about CY578, as it seemed maybe the Rob Kuntz chapters took into account events he'd detailed in the Greyhawk's World column, so at least a couple years must have passed from CY576 . . .
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    Sat May 23, 2020 12:01 pm  

    rasgon wrote:

    Filth Fever: (3rd edition DMG) "Dire rats and otyughs spread it."


    Filth Fever is also mentioned in White Plume Mountain. It is contracted via contact with the water covering the floors of the dungeon.
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    Sat May 23, 2020 5:53 pm  

    edmundscott wrote:
    What year was the Red Death supposed to hit in WG8?


    Living Greyhawk Gazetteer, page 24: "The Great Kingdom saw a brief, violent resurgence during the reign of Ivid V, who assumed the Malachite Throne in 556 CY. Despite creeping insanity, he ably defended his realm from the combined forces of the Golden League (579–580) and civil unrest during the Red Death plague of 581."
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    Sat May 23, 2020 7:22 pm  

    rasgon wrote:
    mtg wrote:
    Samwise posted two other parts of his timeline, which expands on what the LGG and LGJ presented and may present further instances of plague.


    He went into much more detail in his article The Return of House Neheli and the Plague of Madness

    Thanks Rasgon. I don't think I had read that article before. (By late 2005, I was only occasionally engaging here and started a long hiatus the following year.)

    edmundscott wrote:
    Wasn't there some mention in WG8 that the Red Death had hit the Flanaess previously? Is it possible that some of the plagues mentioned above (Neheli or Salinmoor, for instance) were actually earlier Red Death pandemics?

    It could be IYC, but Samwise's articles suggest that these plagues derive from Malhel and/or Toli Suel magicks and possibly artifacts / relics that the Malhel plundered from the Lonely Tower of the Silent Ones and secreted in the Dreadwood at Valadis. (In turn, some of these plundered magicks derive from Vecna's empire, which the Silent Ones had acquired after Vecna's fall.)

    Alternatively / additionally, the Malhel might have sited Valadis where they did because it facilitated access to pre-Suel magicks: pick your favorite source. (The top of my list would include Flan, Olman, or Olven sources.) Also, IMC, I prefer multiple plagues because Incabulous (and others) and also because conflating them seems less interesting to me.

    Regarding the dates of the Red Death, the Great Library of Greyhawk History and Timeline indicates the following:

    Great Library of Greyhawk wrote:
    c.496 CY First known outbreak of the Red Death plague in the Flanaess. (WG8) . . .
    576 CY : The plague known as the Red Death sweeps across the Flanaess.

    This could be harmonized with the LGG's date, per Rasgon's post, by making the Red Death take five years to reach the Great Kingdom, or at least Rauxes.
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    Tue May 26, 2020 9:57 am  
    Dragon Magazine reference

    For extra information on plagues and the like, see Dragon Magazine #138 for some good ideas about gaming a plague and putting such a disaster in gaming terms.

    If you have access to the old magazines check it out.

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    Wed May 27, 2020 2:10 pm  

    Actual pandemics, i.e. a Flanaess-wide illness? Outside of the Red Death I don't remember one being mentioned, though there should be something. I also remember that there was something about a plague that struck Elmshire, but that would have been a localized event, not a pandemic.
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    Wed May 27, 2020 4:33 pm  

    The Elmshire plague was Yellow Eye, which JasonZavoda referenced above; my recollection was that was a specific disease targeting the community by agents of Iuz
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