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    Mad Archmage of the Oerth Journal

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    Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:37 pm  
    Suel tribes

    I'm currently doing some research on the Suel tribes. Now I am in no way going to name" the 12 tribes". However, currently I am double checking my reference to see what I have.
    So far I have 16 tribes/ houses total. They are...
    The Suel Tribes: Cruski, Fruztii, Hepmona, Lerera, Linth, Lizhal, Malhel, Maure, Neheli, Rhola, Shnai, Tilvot, Xodast, Xuel-Crix, Zelred, Zolax.

    Am I missing any canon references, or have I made any official mistakes here?
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    Mon Apr 25, 2005 3:05 pm  

    The Onnwi (Onnwal)? Though I'm not sure of their canonical accuracy

    Here's the referring site:

    http://www.onnwal.org.uk/OG-C2.html
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    Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:40 am  

    The Onnwi are an LG invention, but based on the not unreasonable assumption that the first Suel settlers of the Dragonshead might have called their new realm after themselves. After all every other Suel group seemed to do something similar.

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    Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:04 am  

    Just curious I'd like to know the canon reference of the Linth, Xuel and Zolax.
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    Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:17 am  

    And on a sidebar, I have a topic of discussion related to this. In many areas of the Flanaess, notably Keoland there is still a strong cultural pride in the Suel houses and I'm sure a strong historical knowledge of where they came from. This also applies heavily to the Scarlet Brotherhood who want to bring that glory back. Then there is the three houses in Thillonria who are now effectively barbarians. Since they aren't exactly barbaric in comparison to say the Amedian-Hepmona Suel, my question is do the Cruski, Fruz and Schnai still 'know' or care where they came from and what their races' history is? Obviously they are proud of their individual houses or else the names wouldn't have stuck and it would be one big happy Thillonria, but I just get this gut feeling that their culture in the NE has warped and moved on to the extent theses three houses don't associate themselves with Keoland or Tilvanot or Urnst, etc. Now if you go with the Vikingesque theme of these barbarians they would have skalds who keep verbal record of the Houses' great sagas and stories. Would these date back to the Suel Empire or would have the three 'cold tribes' started over as it were with a new historical set. Afterall they did take on a new god in Vatun once they settled there. Chew on that.
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    Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:19 am  

    In the SB supplement reading the history of the Suel specificly before the Twin Cataclysm their are references to the houses, Cruski, Fruztii, Schnai who fled the empire to escape the war.

    While it isn't explicit, the impression I got was that three houses were considered rather minor noble houses and considered cowardly for fleeing while the Cruski, Fruztii, Schnai were not about to die for their more noble comrades, proved right, which explains the rift between the northern barbarian suel houses who turned their backs on the Imperial suel heritage and the Southern suel and to a lessened extent the Keolandish houses who cling to suel imperial superiority.

    Just a thought...
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    Tue Apr 26, 2005 12:37 pm  

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    my question is do the Cruski, Fruz and Schnai still 'know' or care where they came from and what their races' history is?


    I'd say that at least some of them are aware. In recent years, the Frost Barbarians have had more peaceful dealings with Ratik, as well as visits from the Brotherhood. I don't recall the source (Ivid or SB, I think), but I thought part of the comeraderie the Bros were trying to use in their overtures to the northern folk was the worship of some Suel deities, like Llerg and Xerbo.

    Do they care? They don't seem to have a lot of ambition over raiding, so I'm guessing no.
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