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    Journeyman Greytalker

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    Tue May 25, 2004 5:06 pm  
    WotC Greyhawk Conspiracy

    My conspiracy theory.

    EGG releases "The Slayer's Guide to Dragons" on Mongoose Publishing

    WotC releases "Draconomicon: The Book of Dragons"

    EGG releases "The Slayer's Guide to Undead" on Mongoose Publishing

    WotC is soon to release "Liber Mortis: The Book of Undead"

    EGG is soon to release "Castle Zagyg" on Troll Lord Games

    . . . will WotC release "Return to the Greyhawk Ruins"?

    If WotC did release "Greyhawk Ruins" again would you be faithful to EGG's version or WotC's version. Or maybe use both?

    I'd buy EGG's version for ideas but, to be honest, I am forced to use WotC's (TSR's) version because I have already made it a part of my campaign.
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    Tue May 25, 2004 7:08 pm  

    Good theory. Maybe I need to pay more attention to EGG's new stuff. As for Return to Greyhawk Ruins I haven't heard a shred of rumor about this and I doubt it would generate as much enthusiasm as EGG's version. In fact the place is overdone for my tastes and a Return isn't warranted. The first sets of books mentioned while similar are generic enough in content to at least to be a coincidence. Anyhoo, keep an eye out Baggins. Good stuff.
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    Tue May 25, 2004 10:40 pm  

    I think that you are reading to muvch into the coincidence of the releases... IIRC WotC had planned on creating the new draconmicon before Slayer's Guide to Dragons was announced. The new undead book is simply a plan to capitalize on a market that 3rd party publishers have been successful with (not only with Slayer's guide to Undead, but also with AEG's Undead, and several other similar books).

    that being said I seriously doubt that a Return to Greyhawk ruins is going to be a reality... although if I am wrong and there is something to your theory I will be happy as a pig in poop.
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    Wed May 26, 2004 12:18 pm  

    cwslyclgh wrote:
    I think that you are reading to muvch into the coincidence of the releases...
    I agree. I don't believe there is an orchestrated conspiracy. WotC is just in the exact same market as Mongoose, Sword and Sorcery Studios, AEG, et. al.: publishing and selling fantasy game material.

    Whose product will I buy? Both. I make WotC's products my base, or standard. And then add from non-WotC material as I see fit.
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    Thu Jan 24, 2008 10:57 am  

    Okay, I just had to give this thread a bump. I've never been a big fan of conspiracy theories, but this one is just too rich. Is this guy a prophet or what? Wink

    It kinda makes me wonder: did Gygax release a new version of the D&D rules recently? Is it his fault we're getting this 4e crap?
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    Thu Jan 24, 2008 5:40 pm  
    Re: WotC Greyhawk Conspiracy

    dead wrote:
    My conspiracy theory.


    Draconomicon was an update/revision of a 2nd edition AD&D bookof the same title, far predating Slayer's Guide.

    Libris Mortis was not the first 3rd edition undead sourcebook, Ghostwalk was, it predates EGG's d20 book.

    WotC (or more precisely, TSR) had two prior versions of Castle Greyhawk, one serious, one rather not serious.

    So if anyone is copying ideas for published works here, it's not WotC...

    But, I tend to agree that there is no conspiracy on either side.
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    Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:34 pm  

    Well, if you want to be accurate about things...

    It was only a joke. I thought the original post was hilarious, given the recent release of EttRoG.

    Nevermind...
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    Thu Jan 24, 2008 7:39 pm  

    Yes, this time your powerful Thread Necromancy is in vain, bubbagump... EGG has been "publishing" Castle Zagyg for 29 years. That really doesn't count. In that time, TSR/WotC has managed to publish it 3 distinctly different times. ;-) And ditto what the Ratman said about the other "coincidences". ;-)

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    Fri Jan 25, 2008 6:59 am  

    Nevertheless, I shall not be denied. You will all bow to my unyielding necromantic (thread) power! Muahahahaha!
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    Fri Jan 25, 2008 9:17 pm  

    Next thing you know he'll ressurect one of the many Thrommel threads. Best put a stop to his shannanigans as soon as possible. Laughing
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    Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:35 am  

    So about Prince Thrommel and this 'vampirism' thing...
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    Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:40 pm  

    Black-clad WotC ninjas steal EGG's notes and computer data on a regular basis. This is why Castle Zagyg is taking so long. Laughing
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    Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:48 pm  

    I knew it! Now if only I could get my hands on proof...
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    Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:23 pm  

    bubbagump wrote:
    It kinda makes me wonder: did Gygax release a new version of the D&D rules recently? Is it his fault we're getting this 4e crap?


    IIRC, he did publish a new edition of Legendary Adventures with TLG recently....
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    Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:45 pm  

    The plot thickens...
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    Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:32 pm  

    Maybe 4e is based on a set notes left as a decoy by EGG for the WotC ninjas to steal...

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