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Wed Apr 29, 2015 5:40 pm

Tolkien's own drawings and paintings of Smaug depict a six-limbed dragon.

Haven't posted much the last year or so - I got this crazy idea to open a used bookshop and that eats a lot of time. Good to see the regulars still around!

Sat May 02, 2015 4:27 pm

A used book shop, I think that's awesome. Wish I lived near enough to visit it! Cool

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Mon Aug 31, 2015 9:10 pm

Okay, I've finally seen the Battle of Five Armies, and my final opinion is, to paraphrase Patton Oswalt, if I actually had a time machine, I would go back to around 2006 or 2007 and kill Peter Jackson with a shovel, to stop him from making the Hobbit movies. That's how I would try to save history.

Thu Dec 24, 2015 8:17 pm

I recently bought the extended 3-disk boxed set of the 3 Hobbit movies, complete with deleted scenes added back into the films, along with background and behind the scenes footage.

Anyone else?

-Lanthorn

Thu Dec 24, 2015 9:53 pm

Just curious Lanthorn, is it worth picking up? My wife and I enjoy the movies for entertainment value so I am curious if the extended versions add anything to the story.

I am still sad the movie wasn't closer to the book but, hey, what do you do.

Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:18 pm

I may be in the minority here.

B minus For LoTR movies and Hobbit movies, I would say. The films are badly paced. Slow. Too much extended hiking across NZ time. And when the action heats up, Jackson tends to overdo it , with too much emphasis on falling and jumping sequences. He really, really loves falling and jumping. A lot!
But the films generally look good and all contain some well realized, exciting, moving, or funny scenes.
His lack of fidelity to the source material tempts me to mark the grade a bit lower, but I am not a purist. Adaptations aren't usually going to be close copies of the literature.
He cut out parts I thought were very important, making room to insert new characters and scenes that I found less interesting than what he removed.

YMMV

Fri Dec 25, 2015 6:19 pm

Sat Dec 26, 2015 12:20 pm

Sun Dec 27, 2015 8:49 am

Thanks Lanthorn. I imagine I will be purchasing it at some point.

Sun Dec 27, 2015 9:52 am

I've really enjoyed watching them.

BTW, it turns out that Smaug was going to start off being the traditional 4-legged dragon with shoulder wings. It was Jackson who, at the last moment, changed the concept design to make him more wyvern-like in anatomy. Alas, this happened after they had already done the first film, and that's why you see a regular clawed hand while Smaug is overrunning Erebor's dwarves. In the later DVD release, the animators digitally replaced that clawed hand with the modified hand-wing we see now.

-Lanthorn

Mon May 09, 2016 6:40 am

Thus Jackson is not one of my favorites. Neutral

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