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Not exactly, they later released the Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil, which, by the way, was kind of boring.

Thats a diplomatic way of putting it. Wink

I was initially a bit reluctant to pre-order this module but ended up doing so.

My reluctance was unfounded.

The art is stunning, the maps are GREAT. I like the plot of the module and it is a f ...

Can't say I've got much interest in this. I'll be happy enough with the Castle Zagyg stuff as it gets put out. Yggsburgh is perhaps one of my all time favorite RPG products ever. If the rest of the se ...

Thanks muchly for the comments, I'm glad you are enjoying the articles. I'm still at work on the rest of the series.

The region gave my groups quite a bit of fun over the years.

Yabusama was helping me out when I originally started this by working on a few maps. This series was initially geared towards making a large PDF file.

I've got copies of 3 rough drafts he did for m ...

Thanks for the compliment. This is going to be a six part series. I originally started this quite some time back but various things in my life kept me from ever finishing it up back then. And if my jo ...

I suppose there is a bit of semantic difference creeping into the discussion. I certainly don't think that all mages need to have written spell books and a predilection for literacy. Its entirely ...

It seems to me that I remember a Sage Advice column from the early '90s where Skip Williams said that one could be an illiterate wizard, suggesting that magical notation was a specialized skill, like ...

Instead, I think it'd be cool to see the elven "golden age" happening in the FUTURE, or arguably even the PRESENT, as the elves finally experience a cultural renaissance and come into their own as a r ...

No one said anything about "decline."

Uh...you did?

"Robust" elves, whose civilization is an extension of an elven civilization many times older than humanities, perhaps now retiring , but ...

The idea that the elves had some ancient empire and are now in decline seems cliche to me.

In my campaign I prefer a different approach. The elves possess unearthly beauty and grace, a conection wi ...

Math is most definately not my strong point so I may be off here, if so forgive me.

Using your example of earth's recorded history of 5000 years, human lifespan of 100 and elven lifespan of 2000.
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Given their lifespans, to have witnessed the rise of humanity, elves must have had as many generations as humans or nearly so.

Eh?

A mere handful of elven generations, given their long lifespan ...

I like the idea of an age of reptiles and that is the direction I'm looking at taking for my campaignin regards to Anakeris.

I wish I could say I am going to take an original approach to it, but I' ...

One thing that strikes me about the LGG entry for Lendore I previously mentioned is the usage of the term "elf colonies" as opposed to kingdoms, settlements, etc.

Lets say that these colonies that ...

sool-OY-z (yeah I know the other one is correct, but it's the way I've always said it).

I pronounce it the same way and I too know it's wrong, but I just can't make myself NOT say it like tha ...

The LGG has made fairly clear that the olves of the Lendore Isles have significant naval skills. While Sargent's take-over of the isles seemed overly Tolkien to me, I'm content with the naval prowe ...

Eberron is not the antipode of Greyhawk, let alone the Flanaess. An antipode is like a mirror image. It is familiar but reversed. For example - humans form most states here and elves are relegated to ...

A good example of this is the Tax Law of Palmyra... This records a Roman provincial city's enthusiastic taxation on ... sellers of asses ... and prostitutes.

Redundancy?

Laughing

OK, sorry... ...

I think some of the weirder critters would fit well in such a place, and it might make for an interesting adventure to go on safari to Anakeri on a critter hunt for some managerie owner in the Flana ...

In the years I've been playing or DM'ing Greyhawk I've never really developed any of the areas outside of the Flanaess aside from a few isolated adventures in Isle of Dread type locations.

If I did ...

There's something to be said for the Australia parallel, however. Not in specific cultural or biological detail, but the general idea of a continent that's been zoologically isolated from the other pa ...

My initial thought is a simple one...

Why?

Not, "Why develope an area different?" I think the idea has merit. But why, with like you said Oerth developing much like a fantasy earth, would this p ...

The map that comes with the Gazateer is a full map of the Flanaess.

Now, admittedly there are far better maps out there, but it is one of the Flanaess.

Or, to put it another way, what do we know about the sagely molydeus other than what's in Ivid the Undying?

That he has a knack for attention getting monikers.

Fiend-Sage...it gets you to perk u ...

Gray elves are among the longest-lived beings on Oerth, and the memories of what they lost, and never gained, still haunts them...

Yeah, I like a non happy-fun-time-elf take on the race. In my camp ...

The elves of Celene are no less flawed ( not that they have been presented otherwise).

During the battle of Celene pass there were a handful of elves among the League of Right. When Rourk Splinter ...

In the Principality of Ulek, especially among the dwarves and humans displaced by the humanoids in the occupied territory, violence against elves is not uncommon. Outside of the main population areas, ...

What better (read: more evil) way for a DM to soak the PCs than exchange rates, arbitration, duties, excises, tariffs and tolls, in addition to the taxes on dungeon loot?

The City State of the I ...

The hullabaloo about NPC levels is misguided; unless you want to run a campaign where the PCs slaughter their way up the feudal system, the rulers of the Flanaess aren't going to be the primary anta ...

Having a GH book be "rules neutral" doesn't really work either as the rules impact the setting

Some campaign books are written rules lite, but those books work because levelling and balance are no ...

*chuckles*

Yeah, six months of summer sounds about right for Texas. And just like Gary had his reason, I have a reason for wanting a more traditional 4 seasons...

I hate only having 2 seasons in ...

If you've got quality, colour art is worth the expense. You'd be amazed how many people will buy a book for the "wow" factor of good art.

Yes, well done color art is pretty. But it is also pretty ...

The reason smaller companies can manage to publish them and survive is because of scale.

Which, if any of us were able to buy the rights to Greyhawk, that is exactly what we would be.

A smaller ...

and 1970's artwork - madness and more madness.

Just present the world in all it's shades of grey glory in a way that'll be attractive to new players (meaning nice colour artwork!)

Art is easil ...

Modules should be available in an electronic format. The problems with paper modules are availability, and the difficulty for DMs who tend to run paperless games (mine, and the two games I'm in are a ...

Also, one of the problems with modules is that Dungeon does such a good job. Even if the module has a little more material, with the websupplements Paizo puts out it is hard to justify the extra co ...

Quite awhile ago (I can't remember why, but I had a reason at the time) I did a spreadsheet brekaing down the Human, Elven and Dwarven population by kingdoms. I think I was doing a comparison of elven ...

I like how you spanned the spectrum of the various ideas thrown out here and meshed them together.

Just a few comments:

Novels: I agree that novels would be great. I wouldn't even have a problem ...

I'm currently using Castles & Crusades for Greyhawk and loving it.

Prior to picking up C&C however, I was considering using Talislanta 4th edition and going that route. Coming up with the i ...

Alright, so I get a kick out of dreaming how I would accomplish this. Here's some of my plan in a little more depth.

Here are the core books I would produce:

The Flanaess: This would be my openi ...

One thing I've seen a couple of times in this thread, and I'm curious about...

Do you really think that having the "Official" liscence and use of d20 would really aid in marketing?

As much as I' ...

Just a few comments on things brought up.

The artwork would be a critical element. The cover art of the old modules and the Darlene map are what got me hooked. I would have a lot more of the same ...

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I would post more but the beauty of these maps have left me speechless.

I'd probably go out of business, but this is what I'd do:

1. I wouldn't publish anything causing dramatic, area altering events or advance the timeline. Greyhawk is an established setting with a lo ...

The cost alone should initially be prohibiting enough. By 3.5 reckoning, isn't the expected accumulated wealth of a character of 6th level right around 6,000 gold (coinage and items combined)?

If ...

Nice! Works for me.

OK, I know what the coat of arms for the Hardby Marines looks like but has there been anything done for the Hardby Militia, the city itself or the Gynarchs?

Ok, this is really a question about Hackmaster and not 2e but hell, the basics are the same anyways...

I'm currently running a 3.5e campaign but it's winding down and we plan to play a Hackmaster c ...

I've been doing something similiar to this but on a smaller scale for my Kingdoms of Kalamar campaign. I've done it for the families in two of the villages my players frequent. Listing Fhokki family t ...

In my campaign I ended up using the Necromancer Games, Lost City of Barakus' mini-campaign city of Endhome for Gradsul.

Just made some tweaks here and there and it has served me fairly well with my ...

Thanks for the reply Sam.

Is there any detailed info on her anywhere or just a name and that she's married to Markos?

DD

I'm curious if a name has ever been given to the wife of Markos Skotti, the baron of Keoland's Grayhill.

I know that the LG writeup on Keoland states that Markos often leaves the governance of Gr ...

Thanks. I thought it came from Artifact of Evil but was not sure.

Anything ever done with it after it fell to Ulek's forces?

Strandkeep Castle?

I'm looking for some info on the place, it's history, whatever.

Hey,

I'm tyring to put together a rather large guide to the orc occupied provinces of eastern Ulek and while I could do the maps for it myself I fully admit I'm not the best of cartographers. If an ...

I generally dislike prestige classes. I love the idea of them and what they can add, but the reality of them is more so-so with me.

My main gripe is the imbalance between melee prestige classes and ...

Even with the elves fearing for the ability to continue their lineage the dwarves still have grounds to grumble about their inactions and thus continue to hold grudges.

Take the populations of the ...

I wasn't to fond of the 3e/3.5 rate of advancement either, especially with combat heavy modules rocketing the PC's through the levels. At first I began awarding 1/2 Xp for encounters but eventually w ...

This is fine if all you are doing is dungeon crawling, but it is terrible if you want to do anything else.

That is a fault of the DM not the setting. There's plenty to Oerth besides doing dungeon c ...

If the villain is a constant, the villain is a cartoon, a joke and ultimately ineffective in any serious way. Any villain who is a constant becomes by turns cliche, over-exposed and cheesy. Iuz is no ...

That's an interesting way to go about it, and it begs the question: Do these conservative elves really loathe humans and dwarves, or are they just acting to preserve anything and everything they can f ...

Oh, and as for the original question...

The most common touted reason for Celene's lack of action in my campaign is,

"They're a bunch of limp wristed, leaf eatin', prettied up sissies who are sk ...

I agree with you there and it makes far better sense than the whole Slaver debacle. Seriously, reynolds took one of the, in my opinion, coolest rising villains and made him a joke.

Unless Turrosh suddenly turns his focus away from the Principality of Ulek and mounts a major offensive directly into Celene (which he hasn't done yet), it's not likely that the elves will change th ...

Well, I've added the Runethanes to my house rules with some modifications, so now my players will have that option available to them.

I made a slight change in the class skills, swapping Gather In ...

I'll admit that it's got me feeling all nostalgic and will likely end up in my book hoard.

Will I play it though? *shrugs* NOt sure.

Well, being initially reluctant to make the conversion to 3e (and even more so to 3.5) I've always pretty much avoided dumping more money into the edition save the core books.

Some non-WotC works h ...

*chuckles*

I had just come across this about Shadow Helixes earlier tonight and now it goets brought up.

http://members.aol.com/WoGFanClub/helix.html

I agree with cwslyclgh, I've enjoyed the regional items and have made use of them in my campaigns. Horn of the Barrier Peaks, Armor of the Crystalmists, etc have been much enjoyed for the "feel" and h ...

Glad I could be of help.

As a side note. I remember after my group first made the switch to 3e they had grown a bit overconfident with all their nifty feats. So, when they first came across an ogr ...

Even with these seemingly crazy abilities don't worry about providing a challenge for you party. Characters may be "bigger, faster, stronger" but so are the critters.

Sure, the barbaraian *might* ...

Yeah, thats what I thought as well, just figured I'd asked in case I was missing it somewhere.

I'm working on an in-depth history of the Axe of the Dwarvish Lords and was curious as to if the Anvil of the Lortmil Mountains that can be found in the Greyhawk Adventures book has any information an ...

You can find the 3.5 version of those spells on the items at the download here:

http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=15

I'd recommend looking at the 3.5 v ...

The LGG goes on to combine the two histories. It states that when the Horned Society and Bandit Kingdoms invaded that by 581 all but Critwall had fallen.

In early 583 the humanoid forces of the Hi ...

Me and my group made the change to 3.5e. Like anything else it has it's good and bad points.

My players have enjoyed the change because of the amount of customization they are able to use when cre ...

Page 6 of the CoG FFF book cites the Horned Society and Bandit Kingdoms invading the Shield Lands in 579-581CY. The Greyhawk Wars started rolling in what, 582 I believe?

Guess that would place CoG ...

They didn't know if all the Baklunish were destroyed, or still had some missiles left in the silos ready to go if more Suel cities were located.

Doh...

And of course the obvious answer eluded me ...

Well, it's more of a mini-campaign than a module.

Barakus is a ruined subteranean city built long ago by a bunch of magically capable humans. One of their better mages turned to lichdom and the oth ...

I've been considering using the Lost City of Barakus module by Necromancer Games as the kick off for my next campaign. Right now I've just been mulling over ideas for where to place it. Has anyone use ...

Does anyone own the "Lost City of Gaxmoor" or the "City of Barakus" books -- both by Troll Lord Games? Would these products help me out?

I can't speak for Gaxmoor but as for the Lost City of Barak ...

I agree that being Lawful Good does not equate to mandantory idiocy in regards to battlefield tactics. Does ambushing an orcish warband during the day violate the tennants of LG belief? Nah. However, ...