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Saracenus
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:41 pm  
List of Sages & Savants of Greyhawk

Does anyone know of a consolidated list of Sages and Savants of Greyhawk. I would prefer a canon list, but would accept one that had fannon if they are distinguished.

Even better would be an index of where they appear.

Yes, Google is my friend but it hasn't brought me what I want. Nor has using the "search feature" here on canonfire.com.

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Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:28 pm  

Have you checked the Duicarthex, maybe? That's my best guess.
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 4:34 pm  

Duicarhthex?

Where would that be? I know of Zavoda's index but this one is new to me...

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Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:07 pm  

There really are not too many sages of note. Of the top of my head i can only think of two:

1. Iquander
2. Pluffet S. Smedger(you gotta take a trip through a worm-hole to the future to involve him though)
3. The Fiend-Sage

There must be other sages mentioned (particularly in Greyhawk), but none come immediately to mind. I've created one who specializes in ancient civilizations/races and arcana- Mulgath the Wanderer, Savant-Sage of Dyvers.
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:30 pm  

Saracenus wrote:
Duicarhthex? Where would that be?


The 'Duicarthex' is Rick Miller's NPC Encyclopedia, which is available for free download here: http://www.greyhawkonline.com/duicarthan/dnd.html

For the three or four of you who still don't know who Rick Miller is, he's the talented and devoted editor-in-chief of the Oerth Journal. The OJ, of course, is available for free download at this URL: http://www.oerthjournal.com/oerthjournals.html and might contain an article or two that could be of help with your search.

(*sneakily pockets the 35 cents Rick paid for the publicity...*)
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:44 pm  

You can also go to my City of Greyhawk NPC annotated index at http://melkot.com/locations/cogh/cog-npcs.html and do a "Find in page" search for "sage". There you'll find 9 sages in the City of Greyhawk, and the page references for the source materials.

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Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:06 pm  

Okay, okay, so I forgot your famous and lovingly/laboriously assembled list. Ya don't have to take it personally! Wink

Now get back to making maps, Maldin!
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 8:12 pm  

Or do the same thing with Rob's Bastard Greyhawk NPC page -- http://homepages.ius.edu/rvest/Greyhawk/GHNPCs.html in which you will find 13 sages and hey, Lucky Pierre -- one half-elven exotic dancer named Sage. Smile
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Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:20 pm  

Hahaha.... no problem, bubbagump!
But since you mention it, I was actually working on a quick little sketch map for Duic tonight. Wink I'm sure he'll be ecstatic to know that I'm actually working on the "quick little map" that I kinda promised I'd "whip up" for him something like 5 months ago. Shocked

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Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:07 am  

I don't know how canon these are, or if they made any of the above lists, but these are from EGG's campaign.
Robilar had two sages, Herb, who was actually an apprentice of Otto's with sagely abilities, and Isador.
In Greyhawk there was the Master of the Sage's Guild Kralaist Dechler, and the Master of the Savant's Guild Klinchak the Striped Mage. Both were also oligarchs.

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Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:38 am  

Not to mention Ahern the Sage in Kalstrand who is featured in Return to the Tomb of Horrors.
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Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:58 pm  

Cebrion wrote:
There really are not too many sages of note. Of the top of my head i can only think of two:

1. Iquander
2. Pluffet S. Smedger(you gotta take a trip through a worm-hole to the future to involve him though)
3. The Fiend-Sage

There must be other sages mentioned (particularly in Greyhawk), but none come immediately to mind. I've created one who specializes in ancient civilizations/races and arcana- Mulgath the Wanderer, Savant-Sage of Dyvers.


There's also Selvor the Younger (& presumably an Elder also), plus Rary's brother Arkalan(?) Samael.
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Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:43 pm  

IIRC Zavoda's index tracks sages as an explicit category.
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Mon Jan 14, 2008 8:35 pm  

We can add Elraniel Tesmarien, the grey elf sage from Nyrond who currently lives in Clerksberg in Greyhawk City. He's described in From the Ashes.
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Tue Jan 15, 2008 4:51 am  

I think there's an 18th level sage in Istivin from a Dungeon module - I forget his name but I'm sure that someone nerdier than me can recall it.
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:02 pm  

PaulN6 wrote:
I think there's an 18th level sage in Istivin from a Dungeon module - I forget his name but I'm sure that someone nerdier than me can recall it.


That wouldn't be the dude from GDQ 1–7 (whose name escapes me), would it?
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:14 pm  

Lashton, of Keoland.
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Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:52 pm  

Robbastard wrote:
Lashton, of Keoland.


No, Lashton is the court wizard. The sage is Algorthas. (You made me look it up.)
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Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:57 am  

Found another one: Rhammulfleiss - lives in Moatshield in the County of Crystalreach whose expertise involves the history of Furyondy and its old vassal states, including Veluna, the Shield Lands, and Highfolk.

I also think the sages Svorjer Deol, Hodd of Dyvers, and Klemba the Gray, three experts on the Amedio jungle live in Northending Wood near Gradsul.

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Thu Jan 17, 2008 6:19 pm  

Hmmm, apparently Zavoda's index doesn't call out sages as NPC categories; nonetheless, here's the list of instances of "sage" in Jason's index:

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Demetrios the Sage [NPC]
I7 - IC,1,2,4,21,23,31,32

Fiend-Sage {Fiend Sage}(Demon)[NPC]
DRG#292 - 96
DRG#294 - 91
DRG#295 - 5,91,92
DRG#297 - 90
IVID
LGG - 91,93
LGJ#1 - 20
LGJ#2 - 1,20
LGJ#3 - 3,20,23
LGJ#4 - 1,17,22
LGJ#5 - 1,22

Grey Savant [NPC]
LGJ#4 - 5

Herb the Sage [NPC]
DRG#301 - 16

Kardis the Sage [NPC]
LGJ#2 - 5

Kiwil the Sage [T11][NPC]
TSB - 29

Prosper (Doctor)[NPC]
COH - 156,157,158,159,160,161,170
SOOC - 71-74

Rel Mord, Eight Sages of [ORG]
GW:ADV - 25

Sage [CLS]
LOG - 11,24,73,108

Sages, Guild of (City of Greyhawk)[GLD]
SEE Sages and Academics, Union of

Sages, Guild of (Rauxes)[GLD]
WG8 - 69,81

Sages, Guild of (Safeton)[GLD]
DRG#241 - 80

Sages, Society of {Sages and Scholars}(Nellix)[GLD]
LGJ#4 - 8
SOOC - 287

Sages and Academics, Union of (City of Greyhawk)[GLD]
COG:FFF - 37
COG:GOTF - 78
LGJ#2 - 4
PGTG - 30
TAB - 101

Sages and Sorcery, College of (Nellix)[SCL]
LGJ#5 - 31

Sages Tower (Rookroost)[CTL]
WG8 - 5,6,8,9,10,13,40

Savant Sage {Savant-sage}[NPC]
GW:ADV - 25,26
LGJ#4 - 5,7
TAB - 11
WOGG - 2,37

Savant Tavern (City of Greyhawk)[INN]
COG:FFF - 19,82,85
COG:GOTF - 70,96
LGJ#2 - 4
LGJ#4 - 6
LGJ#5 - IBC
TAB - 97
WGA4 - 16

Savants Hospital
SEE Delleb, Temple of (Chendl)

Shadow-Sage {Shadow Sage}[NPC]
LGJ#4 - 11,17

Silver Savants [ORG]
DRG#263 - 50

Silverbow Sages [ORG]
DRG#208 - 54,55
IVID


I added the few entries for savants as well, on a whim.
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Fri Jan 25, 2008 4:24 am  

I was just reading through some old Dragon articles on the WoG, and I noticed this reference that I thought I'd add to the thread:

"Emasstus Carcosa, a well-known sage and Patriarch for the high seat of Pholtus at Rauxes"

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Mon Feb 18, 2008 9:50 am  

The Gord the Rogue novels provide a few more:

Doctor Prosper, he is Gord and San's tutor in the first novel, and also appears in City of Hawks. He is old and retired, and maintains a small house with a garden. He has very broad knowledge of plenty of things.

Twistbuck, a Don at Count's College, areas of knowledge include architecture, cartography, history, and city planning (he created the weird game with his name, causing Gord to lose the wager with Chert).

A Doctor Bizzell is also mentioned, a friend of Prosper, a Don at Landgrave College.

If I think of any more I'll post them.
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 1:42 am  

Robbastard wrote:
There's also Selvor the Younger (& presumably an Elder also), plus Rary's brother Arkalan(?) Samael.


The name is Arkalan Sammal.
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 6:47 pm  

There's also Tuaren Leedstit.
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Wed Feb 20, 2008 8:54 pm  

From my own writings:

Shandra Malth (Olman and Amedi magic area of expertise)
http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=286

Ilbrysis of Cryllor
http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=72

Drelbin (no details, just mentioned as the master clerk of the library of the Keoland scribes guild)
http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=105
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Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:09 pm  

rasgon wrote:
There's also Tuaren Leedstit.


ROFL!!! How could I forget Tuaren! I didn't know he had his own wiki page.
Well, CFwiki, anyways.

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Sat Feb 23, 2008 10:59 am  
Aerdi sages

From Ivid the Undying there are several Aerdi sages that can be consulted on various subjects. The one I liked best was the lich-sage Rexifer. is expertise is in metaphysics, specifically the Nine Hells.

Several others were mentioned. A few priests of Hextor have sage like knowledge of metaphysics as well.
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Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:14 pm  

There are sages also in the Spelljammer Greyspace supplement!
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