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    Grandmaster Greytalker

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    Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:02 pm  
    Original Great Kingdom Map

    This looks like something Grodog might have reported already, but I didn't see it anywhere in the forums, so I'll toss it out. Over at Havard's Blackmoor Blog, Havard posted a map of the Great Kingdom which Gygax talks about way back in DRG#7 in the article, "Gary Gygax on Dungeons and Dragons: The Origin of the Game." It was published in The Domesday Book, a magazine of the Castle & Crusade Society, as the setting for a wargame. You can see a few familiar geographic features and the origin of the Flanaess in it.

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    EDIT: Oops! Wrong link. Here's the correct one.

    http://blackmoormystara.blogspot.com/2012/08/arneson-turns-c-map-into-rpg-world.html
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    Sat Sep 01, 2012 8:34 pm  

    Thanks for the link, Smillan. That first map was posted on Canonfire! recently, but I don't recall where - I just know that I saw it not too long ago.

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    Sun Sep 02, 2012 8:35 pm  

    You can also follow Jon's blog directly @ http://playingattheworld.blogspot.com/ :D
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    Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:07 pm  

    I'm only about halfway through the book (and if you haven't bought it yet-- BUY IT; it's now THE standard text of the history of early RPGs), but I noticed something about the map on p. 305.

    It's the same area described in "The Magicians Ring". The hexagonal room with the round pool labeled "crocs" is unmistakable.

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    Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:25 am  

    Anybody with a clearer view of the map know what the name to the west of the Northern Barbarians is? It looks like "Snowy" something to me. "Hills" maybe? but I'm not sure of either word.

    Allan, did Jon ever get back to you about your PPS on the location in what would become the Sulhauts, south of the Dry Steppes? Joe, is the map any clearer in Jon's book?

    My understanding on the pre-published Flanaess had been that it was based on a map of N. America, with Greyhawk City located where Chicago is. I had always pictured Gygax having just taken an outline map of N. America and putting GH locations into it, but now I'm getting a different picture. Maybe I was just imagining it the wrong way? Is there any more clarification on this in Jon's book or elsewhere?
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    Mon Sep 03, 2012 8:38 am  

    smillan_31 wrote:
    Anybody with a clearer view of the map know what the name to the west of the Northern Barbarians is? It looks like "Snowy" something to me. "Hills" maybe? but I'm not sure of either word.


    Yep, that would be "Snowy Hills" alright. Wink
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    Mon Sep 03, 2012 2:21 pm  

    GreyhawkGrognard wrote:
    I'm only about halfway through the book (and if you haven't bought it yet-- BUY IT; it's now THE standard text of the history of early RPGs), but I noticed something about the map on p. 305.

    It's the same area described in "The Magicians Ring". The hexagonal room with the round pool labeled "crocs" is unmistakable.


    Spot-on, Joe: when the original map was sold a few years ago, it was sold with a copy of the Wargamer's Digest with that story in it too.
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