Hi everyone, first-time poster here asking for some help.
I'm sure that no one needs to be told about Anna B. Meyer's incredible Atlas of the Flanaess. I've been talking to Anna on her blog, and she mentioned that she's willing to make custom adjustments to her map upon request.
I'm a huge fan of her Atlas, and I'm planning on printing out a full-size version (8'4" x 9'8" or so). However, I do want to make some small adjustments, in that I noticed some non-canon elements on her map that I'd like removed.
The example that leapt out at me was the location marker on the Atlas for Tower of Azal-Lan, just south of Knurl. Given that I've never seen or heard of this before (I'm a huge Ravenloft fan), I was confused by that entry, until I realized it was from the Dragonsfoot module of the same name.
Unfortunately, my Greyhawk-fu is weak enough that I doubt I'd recognize any other fan-based locations that appear on Anna's map. Hence, I'm turning to this community for help in identifying non-canon locations on the Atlas.
I know that adherence to canon is oftentimes looked askance at (the name of the site was a subtle tip-off in that regard), but I'd really appreciate any help I could get in this regard. For the record, my interpretation of "canon" is anything published, licensed, or approved by TSR/WotC; "non-canon" is everything else (e.g. Dragonsfoot modules, which are made by fans for fans). Of course, just because I'm a hypocrite, I do think that the last few Gord novels are canon, to boot.
Off the top of my head, the only other non-canon fan work that I'm certain is on Anna's map is my own creation - Sanctigaard and the demesne of Sir Xaris ab Yustin (including Eastboro and Mineholme) between the Principality of Ulek and the Pomarj:
I can tell you with 100% certainty that Ulakand and Kester are the only canon locations in Ull on Anna's maps. Most every other reference is from my Canonfire and Oerth Journal articles.
I can tell you with 100% certainty that Ulakand and Kester are the only canon locations in Ull on Anna's maps. Most every other reference is from my Canonfire and Oerth Journal articles.
This is the sort of thing I was talking about. I'd never have known that. Thanks!
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If you download the PDF version, aren't the non-canon elements all in their own layer?
No, not in the PDF I have. The layers are all for map features like borders, roads, settlements, etc.
I just wanted to pop in to note that, while the Tower of Azal'Lan is non-canon, Azal'Lan himself is. He once ruled the present-day Bone March, so it's not much of a stretch that an edifice from his reign might still stand in the region. That said, I hadn't realized Anna had placed the tower on her map. I'm flattered.
I just wanted to pop in to note that, while the Tower of Azal'Lan is non-canon, Azal'Lan himself is. He once ruled the present-day Bone March, so it's not much of a stretch that an edifice from his reign might still stand in the region.
Oh, I'm very familiar with the character; I'm a huge Ravenloft fan. That said, according to the novel King of the Dead, Azalin ruled Knurl from Castle Galdliesh, right in the heart of the city, and it's pretty well presented that that's where he performed his experiments also. While there's certainly no reason why there couldn't be another structure elsewhere, there's nothing to say that there is either.
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That said, I hadn't realized Anna had placed the tower on her map. I'm flattered.
Yeah, that was quite the eye-catching location when I first saw it.
Anna did create a CY 576 version of her map. So far as I recall, it is an updated version of the Darlene map, and so fully canonical (you should verify that with Anna though). That map is a good starting point, as it really is the ultimate baseline for a canonical Greyhawk map. It would be exceptionally nice if the full map was layered based on product, meaning there would be the main Darlene map layer, layers for each From the Ashes era product, layers for The Adventure Begins era material, a layer for LGG material, a layer for official RPGA LG material (i.e. seasons 1 & 2), a layer for unofficial RPGA LG material (i.e. seasons 3+), a layer for what could be called quasi-canonical material (for instance, Len Lakofka's further Lendore Isle campaign material), and a layer for non-canonical fan material.
That would be a lot of work though. Finding volunteers with the time and inclination to do something like this is always the hard part. _________________ - Moderator/Admin (in some areas)/Member -
a layer for official RPGA LG material (i.e. seasons 1 & 2), a layer for unofficial RPGA LG material (i.e. seasons 3+)
I wasn't aware of that distinction. Is that because (from what I've read elsewhere) WotC was making the LG material for the first two seasons, and allowed individual authors to do so after that?
Bumping this one after a long silence. I'm getting ready to ask Anna to make some changes for a customized version of the map that has no non-canon elements, and wanted to ask one last time if there's anything else in that regard that the more knowledgeable members of this forum can point out.
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