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As for "The Horned Society", I wonder whose horns are they ? I assume they are devils horns, like, you know, the horned devils - the malebranches.

Also, horned devils are from the sixth and seven l ...

So then would the Suel be descended from the Numenorians?

Yes, black numenoreans indeed.

Other point of view : the blue wizards may have founded each one of the Empires : Suel and Baklunish. Ala ...

Incidentally, that's more of Middle Earth's map than I ever seen before, with details of the southern lands. Thanks Galliskinmaufrius! Happy

Well, the Middle-Earth maps come from I.C.E. products ...

Thanks Mortellan! Isn't Ull in Mordor's back yard, too ?? Shocked

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dinSBHcorm2ztPKN24q_g7jfBtXz7azh/view?usp=sharing

I made this map for the fun.

The scale is the same for western Middle-Earth and estern Flanasess. So it matches ...

Well, it all depends... why the PC are going to GH City ?

Then prepare the area they are to visit.

If they come as tourists : just prepare the Green Dragon Inn to make it an unforgetable moment.

Maybe it had something to do with the emotional changes he went through after Tenser came back to life and rejected him.

I'm sorry, rasgon did mention an "in-game" reason : when Tenser came back to ...

Hello Damien,

It was the purpose of my post in the beginning : I was looking for an "in-game" reason for Mordenkainen's baldness.

Rasgon said : "he'd just shaved his hair for no reason"... I mea ...

It makes Greyhawk look like a weird mushroom farm.

Or it gives an oriental flavor to the city. And strengthens the "Greyhawk on Oerth = Istambul on Earth" theory.

So that's the story.

--Erik

Well, thank you Iquander for the story. I remember TSR's Jam 99 Cover, too. The really first appearance of bald Mordy. The artist's choice, between Raistlin and Elmin ...

I know that it took me awhile to realize it was supposed to be him on the cover of the LGG ... anyone else remember the first time they saw it?

The same for me: I said to myself "Who is this guy?" ...

Great pics, boys!

I am curious about the comment that piercings would make sense for Flan.....Why? The Original Flan were based off of Native Americans/ Aborigines.....to my knowledge, these groups ...

OK, I'd liked, or wished, or hoped, that there was a story linked to this change of haircut. Something like... he made an oath, he lost a bet, or wielded some magic which made all his hair fall. Some ...

Is it really for this reason?
Oh, geez, damn kids!

I was just wondering…
In earliest products illustrations, Mordenkainen has long hair and beard.
But in recent products illustrations, he’s bald with a goat.
Is there any known reason to this baldne ...

Mmh, makes me think about "Luga", the celtic god of the sun and the fire. Shift the "u" for a "i", for a name beginning like "light" and maybe this is Liga.

Hello Xilinar!

I do not remember where I read a very interesting theory about necromancer cultists, but there it is, as much as I can recall the tale:

Acererak, the demi-lich from the Tomb of Ho ...

I'd like to recall my theory about Tharizdun not being a god, but two or more pantheons of gods. Read it [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=25271#25271]h ...

Art nowadays in RPGs is always so stern, posed and edgy it doesn't have the light-hearted adventure feel that your work brings.

thats how i fell, but couldnt express

nice words, mortellan!

Y ...

Rasgon is Greyhawk incarnated.

Hello Glad,

Well your art is awsome: catching perfectly the feeling of a d&d session, dramatic and not without humor. I like it.

Gallis.

I bet it has hookas and bellydancers. Cool

COME BACK, MORTELLAN! PLEASE, COME BACK!

RUN! MORTELLAN, RUN!

And what about the inn in Ketser, Ull ? Wink

Reminds me the auto-destruct scene in Mel Brooks' movie Spaceballs.

Will you use the famous Gygax' panic button? I'd like to see its effects.

Uvoigpo (speaking of silly names, we used to randomly generate ours)

How did you do that? Roll a die for each letter of the name? Smile

For my avatar's name, the name of one of my M-U PC, I p ...

Oh yes, The Grand Duchy of Geoff sounds really "medieval" in French - Le Grand Duché de Geoff.

It makes me think of "Geoffrey" an old Firstname misused nowadays...

... and what does it means in ...

By the way, I've always found it difficult to name a PC when creating it.

In my group, we have a lot of silly named PCs.

OK, this a silly question:

Gary Gygax told the tale that when Brian Blume created his magic-user PC, he named him "Rary", because he could combine the name with the level title "Medium", and called ...

Hmm now that I'm thinking about it, he is about the accumulation of knowledge so maybe he'd make a good Wiki-god.

Indeed, I wonder what Delleb would think of Internet. He would be amazed. BTW, as a ...

Well, Mortellan, I guess this is the ultimate proof of love a book can get.
Doesn't Delleb agree? Or is He the kind of bibliophilomaniac who has libraries full of books, and opens none (as I am a lit ...

The Greyhawk Wars boardgame is really weak in itself, but with so much potential.

My idea is to take the map and play a CIVILIZATION+ADVANCED CIVILIZATION (from Avalon Hill) game on it. I find that ...

Master Leomund's article is now available on [url=http://www.dragonsfoot.org/ft/index.shtml#255]Dragonsfoot.

I will need everyone else who submitted a Postfest article via e-mail to go the Submit Article page, type in *ONLY* the title of their article- "Postfest(Brewfest 2008): YOUR TITLE HERE"- preview it, ...

Hello Galliskinmaufrius, was surfing some old Greyhawk sites and came upon this tidbit for Greyhawk brew.

http://freespace.virgin.net/scott.rennie/beers.htm

Oh, that's a gem! Thanks, BusterBudd ...

My resolution for 2009 is to read the WOG comic from n° 1 to 200!

Thanks for the fun, Mortellan.

Indeed, this thread is a good appetizer for the new POSTFEST 2009!

Happy new year to all hawkers!

This is the perfect time to speak of high gastronomy. Gary Gygax is well known for his epicurian tastes; he wrote an amazing restaurant scene in his novel (found in S ...

Hey, Fenreer, - I like your avatar by the way, I play Warhammer FRPG 1st ed. too!

Well, I like the real world maps on barbarian invasions too. I hope you're right about the way DM draw their maps, ...

Sorry, if I come late, but I want to present you my theory about the Flanaess continent.

This is it :
http://poncin.antoine.free.fr/gamee/flanaess.jpg.

So, the Flanaess is North America inverte ...

Thank you Rasgon!

Christopher Perkins did the same thing as Kirt, and detailed it here.

Look in the Humanoids Chapters...

***THE LINK HAS BEEN EXPOSED TO THE MODERATOR'S SPHERE OF ANNIHILATION. PLEASE DO NOT POS ...

In the Crypt of Lyzandred the Mad (Lost Tombs Serie, volume 2, TSR#9580), Lyzandred's bio takes but just one single page in the module.

I'm looking for more infos on this lich and I want to ask you ...

"By the mustaches of St Cuthbert!" is a swearword I like to use.

Well Gallis I will have to take a looksie at those. I didn't realize Chris Perkins had it in him. Laughing

Sometimes these guys will surprise you.

Indeed, this is a very good surprise.

C.Perkins ...

Sorry

Gallis posted above with my answer Laughing

Its been a long work day Laughing

Well, Jim, I do not possess the C&C rulebooks, but I know a little about them.

And Christopher Perkin ...

I would be Norebo because he is lucky in more ways than one. Wink

Mortellan, I suspect you to have a crush on Wee Jas... Wink

Hey! I like Christopher Perkins's take of D&D3 [url=http://homepages.nyu.edu/~dp58/cnc.htm]found here.

Cruel Summer Lord, your view is pretty close to what I wanted to suggest.

BTW, I tried to read the thread in ENworld about the quantum theory and valences - see Thanael's post. But I didn't underst ...

Of course, there are always Sorcerers. Shocked

Well, as I said, I play in 1st edition rules, and sorcerers are not covered by these rules. Confused

its not the official answer, but i always explained like this:

each MU manipulate magic energy. as you level up, you can manipulate more and more.

so, afetr you cast a spell, you "spend" some en ...

Check the 1st edition DMG. Gary Gygax describes how magic works, which is pretty close to your cookie definition Happy

Indeed, my campaign is ruled in 1st edition, and I hope I stick nearest I ca ...

This is very it, Andy, spells are not memorized, they are prepared. Wink

You did it ! and did it wonderfully !! Happy

I would desire to be Boccob the Uncaring. He's the God of Magic and he doesn't care. He collects any magic item that ever existed. And Zagyg is his disciple.

[url=http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogc ...

Just one more suggestion.

The 1e AD&D monk class was devised with the mah-jong game in mind.

So the Grand Master of Flowers is the top level because the flower tokens in mah-jong are the rar ...

Well, I think we are playing a game, and, sometime, rationality may be set aside.

Indeed, DMPrata's quest is challenging: to fit together the 1e monk class and the Greyhawk milieu.

In order to c ...

You’ve got a point.

I was just thinking that these two monks were abducted by Zagyg from the Flanaess and held prisoners in his dungeon under Castle Greyhawk and secluded in the demi-plane of dunge ...

And what about the Mad Hatter and the March Hare from Dungeonland? They are canon, are they?

My apology, DMPrata, if my previous posts were out of the subject.

If I wanted to integrate the 1st ed. PH monk class in the Greyhawk milieu, I would justify the monk class with a background story: ...

Well, Master Cebrion said it all.

The same question could be asked for the assassin class. Do you think that there is only one grand-father of assassins for the Flanaess or for Oerth - something li ...

Yes, every information about the Ur-Flannae are welcome. Thanks Rasgon.

Oh, I see, this is coincidence.

Do you envision the Demi-Urge in game terms? I mean: are you working on rules in order to play the Demi-Urge for a PC or NPC?

Would it be a "prestige class", or - ...

Hey, I like this last one!

*SPOILER*

Hey, Maldin, I've just finished to read your Mordenkainen article. It is great - as usual I'd like to add. Your site is one of my best favorites. Congrats for the 10th a ...

I was re-reading WG8 Fate of Istus, and it is explicitly said that there are several orders of monks, and there are several LG orders from Kara-Tur.

So, IMO and IMC, there cannot be one order for a ...

This is my take about the AD&D magic system based upon Jack Vance’s novels according to Gary Gygax himself.

In short, a magic-user memorizes spells in the morning after a good 8 hours night of ...

Prompt rétablissement, Mortellan!
I pray Pelor for you.

Hi, smillan_31

For history sake, I want to share with you what Gary Gygax knew about Dave Arneson's Egg of Coot :

Dave told Gary "he created the name as a corruption of Gregg Scott, at that tim ...

I would use all the background info in the 1st edition dungeoneer's survival guide hardback book.

On another note, there was a redesigned monk in a Dragon magazine at one time which pushed the class to a higher level and changed some of his abilities. This might be worth a look. It may have bee ...

For my part, I have both versions. Trampier's art on my PHB in english and Easley's art on my PHB in french.

cwslyclgh: thanks! That's it. I remember that I have seen those toys back in the 80's, b ...

I'd like to copy here my own heretic sub-theory about the Multiverse from antoher topic.

"I have my own heretic opinion about the fate of Tharizdum : the Gods did not kill him because he was not on ...

Does anybody know who is the white-robed mage, casting a spell at flying creatures, on the AD&D 1e Player's Handbook cover (art by Easley)?

Is he a mage from Greyhawk?

As the French philosopher Bergson said: “Each philosopher has two philosophies: his own and Spinoza’s one”, I may say: “Each DM has two Creation Myths: his own and Maldin’s one”. Spinoza was excommuni ...

What is known as Maldin's Grand Unified Theory of Life, the Multiverse and Everything is found here:

On [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=18]Canonfire ...

Thanks, Maldin! Happy

I am an unconditional fan of the GUT. Rendez-vous in the Readers Workshop!

My condolences.

And thank you, Master Gygax, I've learned english reading the Ad&D books.

Hey, Cebrion! Do you have other Magic cards like thise one, I like the humor. Smile

I think certain topic subjects are timeless, and other members' opinion worth reading even if they are 4 years ...

These are the links to all of Cebrion's excellent articles about the Witch:

Dragon #114, the main difference is the pact with a patron. This pact is mandatory.

If you multiply the number of patr ...

The World of Greyhawk's OverGod does exist. He is Gary E. Gygax.

Another point of view:

If you adhere to Maldin's Grand Unified Theory, Greyhawk's OverGod is actually a Trinity. This Trinity is ...

Hey! The Gods already did play with artefacts in this [url=http://www.greyhawkonline.com/wogcomic/title/wogstrip17a.htm]old strip!

Ah, to believe or not to believe, that is the question...

So, what about the Witch?

Very interesting story!

BTW, I always thought Joan of Ark/Jeanne d'Arc was the epitome of paladinhood.

A thoughtful group of adversaries and they just might be right Exclamation

But, they are right. Wink

So, could they really be adversaries; I mean, the PC may begin to fight against them, and then they ...

I posted something about it in the [url=http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2989]Readers Workshop, where I suggest "which" class could be member of the Ur-Flan ...

Just as Magic-Users manipulate the other-worldly forces, whereas Clerics worship those forces as gods, obtaining “divine aid,” so do Witches make sure of the forces of nature worshipped by Druids. Wit ...

Thanks Ratlord.

What a relief, so, we shall not fire the canon at me?

There are sages also in the Spelljammer Greyspace supplement!

I've never seen a player get that scared before.

Oh, yes! That's worth it. I find it very difficult to really scare a player!

I'd like to see the relics and artefacts from Greyhawk !

And could we see too, the Tarrasque Question

Master vonbek,

Tell us more! Which creature have you used? The Great Cthulhu itself?

BTW, does anybody think that the Mother, worshipped by the Lerara, under the passage of Slerotin, is in fact ...

Oh, yessss !! They did it !!!!

I always wanted to know what such a terrible act can produce.

Cannot wait until the next episode !!

I'm fan of your comic, Mortellan!

My favorite is the Waldorf strip. Doesn't he look like the mage on the "Dungeon Master's Design Kit" cover?

Thanks, Mortellan!

So why did Vecna hate so much the Elves? Why did he kill their King and razed their cities? I thought he wanted back something they kept... something or someone. And I said to my ...

Mortellan: it would seem that your comic Tharizdum cultists should become "Call of Cthulhu" and "Stormbringer" players. Wink

YES, I say :

1. Tharizdum is the Cthulhu and the Melnibonée pantheons + other chaotic Gods (your choice).
2. His “prison” is beyond the positive and negative material planes (out there)

If Thar ...

Crag: Thanks, I apologize for the canon problems.

You're right for the content: afterthought, I realize that I (not willingly) repeated the Joseph Campbell's theory from "The Hero with a Thousand F ...

OK. I warn you beforehand: it’s a weird tale.

I always wanted to find a reason for the different cosmologies between the D&D system (basic, expert, companion, master and immortal boxed sets) an ...

About the stats of Tharizdum, I think you can only have those for an avatar.

About the question why the Gods didn't kill Big T, my opinion is that not only they could not kill him but still they di ...