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Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:16 am  
Greyhawk Wiki

When will the wiki be back? I've been trying to find some info, but the wiki has been closed for a bit. Cry
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Fri Aug 12, 2016 12:41 pm  

What info are you looking for?
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Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:53 pm  

You answered already, though it would be nice if the wiki DID come back.
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Wed Aug 17, 2016 5:46 am  
wiki

Still no word on the wiki? Cry
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Mon Aug 22, 2016 6:52 pm  

Hoping the wiki comes back soon!!!
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Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:02 am  

Sorry for not having posted earlier, but Gary has been notified of the wiki being down (and for the past few days Canonfire! itself), and has posted this update on the Canonfire! Facebook page:

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Hi Everyone!

Just an update on what's going on.....yes Canonfire and the Wiki have been unavailable. It is intentional. Unfortunately, problems on our host, specifically with the databases behind those sites have forced me to take them down.

I hope to have Canonfire back up today, but the Wiki will be down for a bit longer. I feel confident in saying we haven't lost the contents, however, spammers have made both sites unstable and corrupted.

I will update you again when I know more...

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Mon Aug 29, 2016 10:17 am  

Any update on the status of the wiki?
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Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:37 pm  
Thanks!

Thanks for the notice. The wiki can be fun!
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Wed Sep 14, 2016 11:50 am  

Still hoping the wiki will be back online sometime soon... any thoughts on when that might be?
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Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:27 pm  

No updates yet.
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Sun Oct 09, 2016 4:19 pm  

Time to bump this...

Any word on when the wiki might be available again?
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Sun Oct 09, 2016 6:44 pm  

GreyMage wrote:
Time to bump this...

Any word on when the wiki might be available again?


A number of us are now working to restore the wiki. I can tell you that I have now recovered the majority of the content, and gotten copies to others in case I drop dead or something. The content is sadly NOT in a usable form at the moment.

We intend that not only will the recovered Wiki be backed-up in many locations - but also actively mirrored online. I can't give an estimate as to when we'll be done.

Anyone with a deep knowledge of MediaWiki and/or MySQL and would like to help, can reach me as w80 in #greytalk. I rarely check PMs or follow threads in the forum.
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Wed Oct 12, 2016 12:04 pm  

lamashtu wrote:


A number of us are now working to restore the wiki. I can tell you that I have now recovered the majority of the content, and gotten copies to others in case I drop dead or something. The content is sadly NOT in a usable form at the moment.

We intend that not only will the recovered Wiki be backed-up in many locations - but also actively mirrored online. I can't give an estimate as to when we'll be done.

Anyone with a deep knowledge of MediaWiki and/or MySQL and would like to help, can reach me as w80 in #greytalk. I rarely check PMs or follow threads in the forum.


Lamashtu, I would be interested in being a mirror site... thinking I might build a Raspberry Pi just for that... a fun project possibly. Could you provide more details (when you are ready to mirror)?

Also emailed a gamer friend of mine who is heavily into SQL to see if he would be interested in helping out.

Thanks for the update.
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Thu Oct 13, 2016 3:56 am  

lamashtu wrote:

A number of us are now working to restore the wiki. I can tell you that I have now recovered the majority of the content, and gotten copies to others in case I drop dead or something. The content is sadly NOT in a usable form at the moment.

We intend that not only will the recovered Wiki be backed-up in many locations - but also actively mirrored online. I can't give an estimate as to when we'll be done.

Anyone with a deep knowledge of MediaWiki and/or MySQL and would like to help, can reach me as w80 in #greytalk. I rarely check PMs or follow threads in the forum.

Many thanks to you and everyone else involved in doing the heavy lifting. Cool
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Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:13 pm  
Greyhawk Wiki Article

Can someone send me the article about the Age Before Ages from the Greyhawk Wiki?

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Mon Oct 24, 2016 12:41 pm  
Re: Greyhawk Wiki Article

juliocba wrote:
Can someone send me the article about the Age Before Ages from the Greyhawk Wiki?

Thank you.

Julio.


It's archived here.

(In general, archive.org is a good resource for fallen websites)
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Mon Dec 12, 2016 3:25 am  

any update regarding the status of the wiki?
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Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:08 pm  

I would like to second the request for an update as to the wiki (repair) status...
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Mon Jan 02, 2017 3:20 am  

Sorry to say I have no information on this. Hopefully Gary of one of the folks working on the wiki will pop in with an update.
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Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:21 pm  

So I've recovered an unknown percentage of the wiki's most recent state, in a form that's not particularly usable. We've managed to get it online, again, in a mostly unusable form. We're stalled on the magnitude of manual labor required to return it to a reasonable state.

There's little I hate more than writing code that work with XML, so I don't foresee an automated tool being written currently. Another option might be Amazon's Mechanical Turk I guess, but writing the specification would be complicated and I don't think I'd want to provide the funding on my own.

We've also been pursuing another option, which is obtaining a copy of the corrupted wiki database from Gary. With this in hand, we really ought to be able to restore it to a working state. This option lies in the hands of the server provider (do they keep backups? will they fork 'em over?) and Gary (request backups, put 'em someplace I can leech em to a hefty machine able to work on the database).

rasgon's post above continues to the be the best option I'm aware of for those in need of the wiki. archive.org provides a tremendous benefit to society, albeit one not always fully appreciated.

So yeah; we're stalled on multiple fronts, but the data is secure at least, and we haven't given up. Again: anyone with a deep knowledge of mediawiki, please reach out here or in Greytalk.
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Fri Jan 20, 2017 2:05 pm  

Is the issue one of expertise with MW? Getting hands on the actual DB? Time? Some of each?

As for funding... would kickstarter work to fund having someone return the DB to a non-corrupted state?

Is that a possibility?
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Sun Feb 19, 2017 10:23 am  

Since my last update, I've obtained the allegedly corrupted database, and it successfully imported via my mariadb instance. A brief scan of the tables by eye suggests it's in fairly good shape - but probably riddled with spam.

I'm waiting on delivery of the /wiki/ directory contents, so I can look for signs of tampering with the PHP code, after which I can attempt a full recovery of the wiki and see where/how it breaks down.

I'm cautiously optimistic that I'll be able to recover the wiki to a usable form at this point.

Kickstarter would probably be an inappropriate place to try to fund repairs. A GoFundMe page seems more like the correct approach, should it come to that.

GreyMage wrote:
Is the issue one of expertise with MW? Getting hands on the actual DB? Time? Some of each?

As for funding... would kickstarter work to fund having someone return the DB to a non-corrupted state?

Is that a possibility?
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Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:03 pm  

It looks like the data has been recovered and the wiki will be back shortly.
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Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:39 pm  

Excellent news, Gary! :D

Now if we can just get the Greytalk Archive restored too.... ;)

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Sun Feb 26, 2017 10:13 am  

Oh sure Allan, trying to get me to burn my Wish spell? ;-)

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Mon Feb 27, 2017 3:15 pm  

LOL, indeed :D

BTW, you should update the left-nav text label for the wiki too, once it's fixed!

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Tue Mar 07, 2017 2:05 pm  

The wiki is back and can be found here:

http://wiki.greyparticle.com

Before a lot of other people start using it, I thought it would be good for the regulars to poke around and see how things look. Test your logins.

Consider this a soft roll out.

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Tue Mar 07, 2017 6:26 pm  

I can't login Gary. Can you either reset my pw or tell me if I need to create an account please?
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:48 am  

I too can't log in Sad
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 7:07 am  

It works for me.
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 1:20 pm  

Ok, I enabled the password reset tool, start with Log in and click the link.

Considerable thanks must go to lamashtu, without whom the wiki wouldn't have been recovered.

If you guys notice anything else let me know, hope we can notify the wider community by tomorrow.

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Wed Mar 08, 2017 5:19 pm  

PSmedger wrote:
The wiki is back and can be found here:

http://wiki.greyparticle.com

Before a lot of other people start using it, I thought it would be good for the regulars to poke around and see how things look. Test your logins.

Consider this a soft roll out.

-G


Thanks Gary.

Somebody posted a link to the new website, but didn't pass on that it was currently being tested. I had a look in the forum for The Great Library of Greyhawk Wiki, but I didn't see a mention there.

I'll pass this good news on at the topic about the wiki at the Greyhawk forum at The Piazza. :-)
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Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:16 pm  

Pleased to have been of service. It's gratifying to see the growing excitement as the community realizes it's back.
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Thu Mar 09, 2017 4:22 pm  

Lamashtu,

On behalf of the whole Canonfire community, I want to thank you for the instrumental role you played in recovering the Wiki. I'm sure I speak for us all when I say that we owe you a great debt of gratitude for all you did to get the database up and running once more.


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Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:30 am  

Definitely a big thanks to lamashtu for pulling this off. Cool
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Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:51 am  

Lamashtu, thank you for and congratulations upon getting the Great Library of Greyhawk restored! Thanks, Gary, Los, WK, & Big Mac for helping point me in the right direction of Oerth things on FB so I could be kept updated.

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Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:46 pm  

grodog wrote:
I can't login Gary. Can you either reset my pw or tell me if I need to create an account please?


I created a new account.

Can someone please enable https:// as default for all login and PW reset transactions (at minimum---ideally all pages would be served under https of course)?

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Tue Apr 04, 2017 7:27 am  

Man, this was sorely missed. Well done and a big thanks lamashtu! Cool
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Tue Apr 11, 2017 7:56 am  

Many thanks to all those that make the wiki and have restored it to glory!
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Wed Apr 26, 2017 7:48 pm  

Is there still any interest in mirroring the wiki once it is up again?
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Thu Apr 27, 2017 9:33 pm  

GreyMage wrote:
Is there still any interest in mirroring the wiki once it is up again?


There's already one mirror up at wait-wtf.com/wiki, eventually Gary and I will establish a system to keep them up to date.

I'm also working on multiple methods of packaging the wiki to allow others to easily host it as well. Our main goal is ensuring the community never is at risk of losing the wiki again.
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