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    Thu Jun 21, 2007 10:17 pm  
    Wind Dukes of Aqaa

    Hello all,

    I'm currently brainstorming for an article regarding the Wind Dukes of Aqaa, who I know absolutely zero about and just find the title "Wind Dukes of Aqaa" to be very interesting.

    I'd like to know anything anyone wants to tell me about them, namely the key things I'm looking for are:

    1) How many are there?

    2) When were they first heard of?

    3) Is there any actual "canon" references to them or are they sort of generic D&D that got tacked onto Greyhawk?

    Most of my article will be invented whole cloth since it's really my take on the Wind Dukes, but I'm curious to see what's available on them.

    Thank you in advance,
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    Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:23 pm  

    See "The Rod of Seven Parts" boxed set, and the "Age of Worms" adventure path from Dungeon magazine for most of what info is out there. There is also the "Oriental Adventures" book web enhancement "Mahasarpa" on the WotC website, which further fleshes out the Vaati.
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    Fri Jun 22, 2007 2:46 am  

    They were basicly elemental lords who led the armies of Law against the Queen of Chaos in the first great primordial war betwen law and chaos. They were the ones who broke the back of Obyrith domination of the Abyss and condemed them to a slow, lingering extinction.

    Cebrion's recomendations are probably the best for research purposes. Fiendish Codex I: Hoards of the Abyss also touches on the subject, but not in extensive detail.

    The Age of Worms is detailed in these issues, all of which are not avaliable for download! I've only read the first issue, which has a fair bit on the Wind Dukes in it, but I can't say anying about the following issues.
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    Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:08 am  

    Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be), but didn't the article on Exag in a recent Dungeon issue at least imply that the Wind Dukes may have been the original creators of the city? I'm at work, so fact-checking isn't possible at the moment...
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    Fri Jun 22, 2007 5:41 am  

    I believe the 1st edition DMG also contained some info on the Wind Dukes - at least in regards to the Rod of Seven Parts. I haven't looked at it in a while, though.
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    Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:56 am  

    Jeminnab wrote:
    Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well could be), but didn't the article on Exag in a recent Dungeon issue at least imply that the Wind Dukes may have been the original creators of the city? I'm at work, so fact-checking isn't possible at the moment...


    I think you're mistaken. The Crafters aren't the same as the Wind Dukes. The "Mystery of Exag" article upon which the Dungeon miniseries is based says this, in fact:

    "The Crafters, travelers between each of these realities, observe momentous events upon each of these worlds, recording them for the altruistic purpose of ensuring eternal life through the preservation of knowledge. Many secrets of the ancient world are said by Bearne to be inscribed upon the disks, from an age in which great lizards walked the Oerth to the birth and dominion of dragons to the rise of the aboleth and beyond. No mention is made of humanity, and the Crafters write of abandoning Exag to witness a great battle to the southwest, on the plains below a great volcanic peak. Due to the lack of mention of humanity, Bearne dates the leave-taking of the Crafters at more than 15,000 years ago, much older than the earliest known appearance of the Flan."

    Which is to say the Crafters were contemporaries of the Wind Dukes and abandoned Exag to witness their final battle at the Plains of Pesh. They weren't the same thing, however.
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    Fri Jun 22, 2007 10:20 am  

    There were a few threads on Paizo's message boards about the Wind Dukes. If you seach the Age of Worms archive, you should be able to find them under the titles: "Wind Dukes Of Aaqa," "Wind Dukes In The Realms," and "A Question About The Wind Dukes."

    The Arms and Equipment guide has a small blurb on them.

    I believe they were first mentioned in the 1E DMG (1979?), and again in the 2E DMG (1989). The 2E DMG gives a little more backstory.

    You'll want to check out "The Whispering Cairn" from Dungeon Magazine, The Rod of Seven Parts (TSR 1145), "Finger of the Wind" (RPGA Open Tournament GenCon 2000), "The Dwarven Quest for the Rod of Seven Parts" (RPGA R7-10).

    Check these URLs:
    - http://www.canonfire.com/cf/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=226
    - http://www.superunicorn.com/blogger_archive/erik/2005_02_01_erik_archive.html
    - http://www.superunicorn.com/blogger_archive/erik/2005_03_01_erik_archive.html
    - http://www.superunicorn.com/blogger_archive/erik/2005_04_01_erik_archive.html
    - http://www.superunicorn.com/erik/2005/02/ancient-cultures-of-eastern-oerik
    - http://www.superunicorn.com/erik/2005/08/brief-history-of-multiverse.html

    The old Rod box contains a couple NPC vaati - one named Qadeej. His glyph is depicted in the Whispering Cairn. There are also images of the spyder-fiends on the various frescoes and such.

    Read "The Myth of the Cairn Builders" by Erik Mona.

    Also, he wrote two posts to his blog entitled "Another Ancient Culture of Oerth" and "Ancient Cultures of Eastern Oerik" which you might find useful.

    And then there's the web enhancement for the Oriental Adventures book, available from WotC.com - which has 3e stats for Vaati in it.
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    Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:30 pm  

    You'll also want to check Skip Williams' excellent "A History of the Rod of Seven Parts" in Dragon 224 (December 1995), as well as some details about R7-10 at the Acaeum @ http://www.acaeum.com/ddindexes/modpages/r2.html and additional details on those on my site @ http://www.greyhawkonline.com/grodog/gh_tourneys_r7-10.html
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    Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:49 pm  

    DavidBedlam wrote:

    The Age of Worms is detailed in these issues, all of which are not avaliable for download! I've only read the first issue, which has a fair bit on the Wind Dukes in it, but I can't say anying about the following issues.


    Not to put too fine a point on it, but for those of chaotic neutral alignment or less - most of the Age of Worms issues of Dungeon magazine could be found via a search on piratebay.org. Keep in mind there ARE some ethical issues of finding back issues of Dungeon magazine on bittorrent streams.

    I don't advocate the use of such things, I merely point out they exist.
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